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, and pads had freed off. Went for a short drive, returned and gingerly tried it all seems ok.
| gregdav Member Since: 26 May 2014 Location: just north of stafford Posts: 1077   
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Not sure about later models, but think all have handbrake shoes fitted on inside of rear discs.
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14th Dec 2015 5:04pm |
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| robbo770 Member Since: 10 Jan 2010 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 467  
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There is return springs, but your probable froze onto the inner drums, need the back plate copperslipped where the shoes touch surface as they only move mm's to release |
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14th Dec 2015 5:21pm |
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| Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8530 
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Can't see the point of a handbrake on an auto anyway.... what's the point?? never used it on any auto I've had... !! Pete
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14th Dec 2015 5:25pm |
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| 47p2 Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Gone Beyond, Subaru Posts: 8048
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Water on the discs/pads after washing tends to cause them to jam up and a bang when pulling away... Perfectly normal, the solution is to take for a short drive after washing to dry the discs/pads off |
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14th Dec 2015 5:33pm |
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| Strider Member Since: 08 Jun 2015 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 504 
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Phew doesnt sound so bad then, thanks everyone |
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14th Dec 2015 5:47pm |
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| Rangeyman Member Since: 03 Feb 2015 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 267  
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A poor range rover design but my ordinary 'handle' handbrake is rubbish anyway,i do not use it,how it passes the mot I do not know,what is wrong with the handbrake onto the normal brake discs?Iremember old Volvos with these 'small shoe' brakes in the 70's and they were not that good either ! Always amazes me how some cars have a good handbrake that feels like it has got a good hold and has yet the ones that do not feel that good are rubbish and the driving instructors tell you not to leave it in gear when parked....in these hills ,I do not think so !!! |
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14th Dec 2015 6:00pm |
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| Zirconblue Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Kent Posts: 1277 
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Because in the UK you're legally required to use one. Whether the car will actually go anywhere without one when it's in park is another question entirely. Tbh i always put mine on, i mean it's not as if it's an effort to operate the lever. I'm not judging but you did ask. They're also there as a secondary brake, which is why in the US they're called an emergency brake, granted they're never going to be as effective as the foot brake at stopping the car, but it's better than nothing. The gearbox or selector could fail, what's to say it isn't in neutral when it does. Anyway back to the OP, it sounds like the shoes just rusted to the inside of the drum/disc bell, when you moved it back and forth it broke the bond and the return springs did their thing. Sometimes it can happen over night, if the car was wet when it was parked up. Last edited by Zirconblue on 14th Dec 2015 6:15pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Dec 2015 6:08pm |
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| Zirconblue Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Kent Posts: 1277
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I must admit i had an old Volvo 740. It did initially move a little when you put the handbrake on, i stripped it down as i thought they were worn. It was all fine when i got in there, turns out they had a certain amount of free play built into them. I can only assume it's so when/if they seized on the shoes would move forward against their stop as you moved the car then shock them free - clever really. The initial movement was somewhat un-nerving, but once on it did lock the wheels pretty solidly. Citroen have one of the better ideas, on most of their Hydropneumatic cars, the hand brake works the front axle, makes it much more effective and safer if you need to use it as an emergency brake. |
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14th Dec 2015 6:15pm |
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| Strider Member Since: 08 Jun 2015 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 504
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Anyway back to the OP, it sounds like the shoes just rusted to the inside of the drum/disc bell, when you moved it back and forth it broke the bond and the return springs did their thing. Sometimes it can happen over night, if the car was wet when it was parked up.
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14th Dec 2015 6:18pm |
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| miggit Member Since: 12 Jul 2014 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 3661
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From my experience of the ffrr handbrake ( |
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14th Dec 2015 9:57pm |
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call that a brake, can do better with a brick) is they are not very good, why they did away with the transmission brake I'll never know, it was the best thing since sliced bread, would hold the car and a loaded trailer on a steep hill, the crap BMW have fobbed us off with will just about hold the car on a 1 in 20, let alone a proper slope. And Emergency brake 
| Zirconblue Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Kent Posts: 1277
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What about the Mercedes foot operated parking brake. Not so bad on an automatic. But try doing a smooth hill start on a steep hill in a manual! You need 3 feet to release it smoothly! Other wise it's find the bite of the clutch, yank on the release lever and be very quick on the throttle. (actually i think some BMW's have it too) |
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14th Dec 2015 10:04pm |
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| miggit Member Since: 12 Jul 2014 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 3661
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Should have stuck with the tranny brake, if they are so bad, why do most of the serious off road boys fit them? Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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14th Dec 2015 10:07pm |
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| Zirconblue Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Kent Posts: 1277
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with them, i didn't actually comment on them. |
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14th Dec 2015 11:04pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 20 Jan 2012 Location: Beyond the wall. Posts: 2588 
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Back in the olden days I had a VW Beetle or two, learnt very early on that a handbrake froze! Never used one since and had no problems with them, so if they are illegal not to use then gulity as charged |
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15th Dec 2015 1:15am |
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