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jlock



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A detailing section would be a good idea to raise awareness of whats actually out there. Most other forums im on have one and I think its a great idea Smile

Post #31356 10th Oct 2010 8:27pm
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Tim in Scotland



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2010 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Problem is that the natural environment for a Range Rover is out in the wilds and that doesn't do your shine much good................................... 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

Post #31357 10th Oct 2010 8:44pm
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Problem is that the natural environment for a Range Rover is out in the wilds and that doesn't do your shine much good...................................



What do you think the percentage of Range Rovers that actually do go off road is Tim, my guess would be very low

Post #31359 10th Oct 2010 8:48pm
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Tonga Green

I don't mind mud, snow or water.

The problem is when you have to drive down narrow lanes with branches.

I really love snow though, it's like everywhere becomes a massive off road course! I span mine 3 times coming down a hill with DSC off, YeeHaw! 

Post #31362 10th Oct 2010 9:09pm
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Tim in Scotland



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It's a very small number, I think owners are frightened to try them offroad though, and you don't need to take it to stupid places (I have a Defender for that!) - 50% of offroading is walking the route you are going to drive - if you can't walk it, then the car won't get there either. I wouldn't class any of what i did today as Offroading - it was all on hard surfaces, no over hanging trees or bushes to scratch the car and no deep water or mud (that is the idea of a Green Road Run - non damaging and cars running road biased tyres should be able to cope with it without getting stuck) 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover SE Td6 Zermatt Silver

I like the Garden and would spend all day driving around it Rolling with laughter

Post #31378 11th Oct 2010 9:08am
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jlock



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Yeah i have been known to do a few laps down the bottom end there Very Happy

Post #31574 12th Oct 2010 10:40pm
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csjxx



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zermatt Silver

Hi,

I have a DA and have used it on numerous cars, no problem what so ever and leaves fantastic finish, just very time consuming to complete a complete car. 2+ days most times. I have not had a chance to use it on the Range Rover yet.

I have exactly the same colour/spec as yours by the looks of it. I really like your wheels, what are they and what tyres have you got fitted?

Here are some pictures of my exige s and the finishes I have achieved


Lotus Exige S by CSJXX, on Flickr

Lotus Exige S by CSJXX, on Flickr

Post #31931 15th Oct 2010 6:41pm
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Tim in Scotland



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2010 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Those wheels are 20" Range Rover Sport 10 spoke wheels widely available from ebay but watch out for fakes as they are very popular 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

Post #31932 15th Oct 2010 6:53pm
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csjxx



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zermatt Silver

Tim in Scotland wrote:
Those wheels are 20" Range Rover Sport 10 spoke wheels widely available from ebay but watch out for fakes as they are very popular


Hi, thanks but what are the tyre sizes? as i've seen some and the tyres look like a low profile, where the tyre walls on the range rover above look larger.

thanks

Post #31933 15th Oct 2010 6:58pm
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Tim in Scotland



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I don't know what size those are, but having run an RRS with those wheels for 3 years, I have never had wheels that scuffed so easily as that design - probably because the RRS tyres are very low profile. The RRSport tyre size is 275/40/R20, will try to find the recommended FFRR size though 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

Post #31938 15th Oct 2010 7:42pm
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mzplcg



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

Top job Fella. Bow down Bow down Can I be your Dad as well ?? Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

As regards other posts on detailing, I'm one of those clean freaks as well. The Megs products are really good and amongst my own detailing gear. Also I find Menzerna, Gloss-It and Blackfire are products I really get on well with.

Rotary use is not as scary as a lot of people would have you believe though. All it needs is common sense, and, if you're of a very nervous disposition, a scrap door or something from a scrapyard to practice on. Rotary is way quicker than DA and also doesn't give you the nasty tingly feeling in your hands. Yes it CAN burn through lacquer if you really try but I've only ever done it once on a scrap panel and that was deliberate, mainly to see how much it would take.

The thing with rotary is to use a softer pad and less aggressive polish when starting out. Once you have a feel for the machine (probably a couple of panels) then you can work up through the grades step by step.

To give a rough idea, a DA would take me circa 4 hours to do a FFRR bonnet whereas I can get the same finish using the Makita in about half that.

One place the rotary truly comes into its own is on glass. Removing wiper marks and light scratches takes a lot of welly and about 10LBS of pressure on a rotary. A DA simply wouldn't do it.

For anyone who's remotely interested, some of my work can be found here.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/show...ght=dsolds

For the chaps who left questions on mud etc from off roading (yes I do offroad my FFRR) the answer is a foam attachment for the pressure washer. Before washing the car, give it a good coat of wash foam and let it dwell for 10 minutes. This softens all the dirt so washing off with the PW after removes 98% of it BEFORE you touch the paintwork.

HTH

Dom

Post #31967 16th Oct 2010 6:16am
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jlock



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Im not sure on the tyre size, but ive borrowed it again this weekend so il go out and check in a bit.

mzplcg, you can if you let me borrow your car too Very Happy Laughing

Ive seen the menzerna and blackfire products but i still have a pretty small collection (can be seen in the back of the range rover in one of the pics below). Im still trying to build up my kit so il hopefully get some more stuff soon Very Happy

A lot of people have said rotarys are not as scary as they seem. My cousin is a detailer up in Aberdeen so he said i could go up and have a go with both before i make my decision, which should come in handy!

There seems to be a few members on here also on DW! Thats some good work there on the jag and the lotus (theres no way i would be able to fit in the exige though Laughing )! I plan to get the alloys cleaned and sealed at some point in the coming weeks Smile

Snow foam is another thing i've wanted to try for ages it looks so much fun! Very Happy

The Range Rover has done a fair few miles this week but is beading beautifully Very Happy

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Had a "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" day today. I was given permission to use the 6 the past couple of days Very Happy So i thought it was only right i gave it a good sorting out when i was done. This didn't take half as long as the Rangey funnily enough but is probably the best finish i've accomplished yet. As with the RR it was all done by hand.
I thought the paintwork looked okay just a few scratches here and there but once it was washed i was shocked at the state of it! He keeps saying he takes it to the guys round the corner and i think they use a brillo pad to wash it! Shocked You will see what i mean in the pics.
Car was cleaned using the 2 bucket method and clayed using the same products as before. I then used autoglym Super resin polish on the deeper scratches only. Then polished the whole car using megs stage 2 deep crystal polish. Followed by 2 coats of collinite 915. It has a real slick wet look to it now and the pics just dont do it justice! Interior was hoovered and dash cleaned using a matt finish product (cant remember the name now). Engine bay cleaned using another product i cant remember the name of Rolling Eyes

Enough babbling:
Again i was too eager to get going i forgot to take any before pics!
1st up some before and after pics on the scratches SRP scratches.
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Door handle before:
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Brillo pad damage Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Fixed... Phew! Cool
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Note the detailing kit in the back of the FFRR Cool
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Quick beading shot as a few drops landed when i opened the boot
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Exhaust before:
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You dont get much room behind me being 6'7! Rolling with laughter
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Sorry for the amount of pics, but again I was pretty chuffed with the results! :D

Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green

Post #32053 16th Oct 2010 6:18pm
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mzplcg



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Yeah, that's some top work there, particularly doing it all by hand. You deffo won't be able to hold a beer steady after that Mr. Green

Seriously, get a rotary and some soft pads. You'll never look back. Silverline make a Makita clone for about 60 quid. Menz make some nice pads and also get a bottle of Gloss-It pad lubricant. About a tenner I think but mellows out the polishing process. If you're still not sure I'll cheerfully give you a lesson in how to use it all safely.

Do you use Polished Bliss at all? Bet your rellie does being in Aberdeen cos that's where they are. Rich Cooper is the bloke who owns it and he's a real diamond.

Cheers

Dom

Post #32057 16th Oct 2010 7:06pm
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jlock



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Polished bliss is where my cousin works! Laughing Im going to be heading up there in a few weeks to be shown how its done i think Smile Thanks for the offer though! Your right the beer is a little shakey but it tastes bloody good Very Happy

I bought a silverline and a few pads but i didn't have enough confidence to use it, so i just kept it for a couple of months then sold it on! Really wish id kept it now though! Sad

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