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Squirrel



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Potentially trading up

Hiya,

I've just been offered a trade-up on my Rangie. It's not a "bite their hand off" deal, which is why I'm hesitant. What do you think of this?

My car:
2006-model RR S/C on a 2005 plate
60 000 miles
A-frame and spotlights added as extras (and the spots are jolly handy at times!)
MoT to December

Their car:
11-plate RR 4.4 TDV8
58 000 miles
Supagard
3 years' GAP warranty
12 months' tax

Cost to change: £23k.

My initial thought is that that's a lot of money to swap for a car in much the same condition, but with a newer interior and exterior design and no A-frame or spotlights. The interior and exterior colours are exactly the same as for my car.

The petrol vs diesel thing doesn't really bother me either way because I don't do much driving these days (no need to), but I do need something big for the dogs otherwise I'd go for something smaller!

So - views, thoughts, opinions? I know what I think, I just want to see if anyone comes up with anything I haven't thought of. Smile

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n1cktdv8



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£23k an buy a lot of something else in my view.

Seems a lot of dosh for not much gain Is this where I put the car details and a bit about myself ?........

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£23 can buy another decent FF, as said above its a lot to change. ... - .- -.




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zarnd



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I personally wouldn't. Alex

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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Is the 2011 a Vogue/Vogue SE or AB/AB Black?

The cost of change is not really the point as both your car and the dealer car have a market value based on their age/model/mileage etc.

You need to decide if you really want a newer car.

If the answer is yes than you will have to pay market rate to get a good later car.

You may be able to offset this a little by selling your existing car privately.

Hope this helps, if you tell me the reg or exact model/date of registration I will value the dealer car.

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Squirrel



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Thanks everybody, my sentiments entirely. It does seem like a shedload of money for a comparatively small gain. It's also a tad less than I paid for the car in the first place less than three years and 11 000 miles ago. I mean, I like the new interior and it would be nice to have the later model, but other than that I can't see any major benefit.

Gaz, I don't know which model it is - I'll PM you! You can value my car as well if you like. Smile

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Bellini



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As above really. £23,000 more for a similar dog carrier makes no sense at all. Si. <This is my name.

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Squirrel



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Exactly. As it happens, I'm about to get my 12-year-old interested in greenlaning and so I was actually thinking of just supplementing the car with an old Defender - I don't want him offroading the Range, he'll ding it and I don't want to have to resort to violence. Wink

Although that said, I have 2 cars already and I do less than 3000 miles a year. I suspect that buying a third car for myself would be Unpopular.

I could just swap the Range for a Defender, I suppose?! Or maybe not.

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I think it depends on what your other cars are, and what you want from your "fleet" Thumbs Up

I love our Defender, but wouldn't want to take it on long journeys, both from a safety and comfort point of view - its great for the dogs though Thumbs Up

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Bellini



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Oddly, I was going to suggest you buy a Defender as a third car, for the dogs. But that'd leave your RR even more out-of-use than it currently is.

My 12 year-old has driven my 110 many times. Great cars to get them started in. Thumbs Up Si. <This is my name.

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Andy3681



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keep yours and have something like a Disco 2 for greenlanes.
as they said £23k to change like for like a lot of money Mine was a blue one! Smile

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Squirrel



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There's a thought. How are the Defenders if they're left unused for any length of time? Do they need to be run fairly regularly to keep them going? I'm quite careful to take the Range out at least once a week, and I make a point of giving it a run if it hasn't had one that week.

A Defender would make a lot of sense, but I doubt I could live with one as a daily driver. I like my heated steering wheel too much. Very Happy It would be handy for the muddy dogs (although I've got a Hatchbag in my car, which is good for keeping it clean), and I could let the little'un drive it through fields and up hill and down dale. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll try greenlaning and hate it, but no problem if he does - I love it so I'd do it instead! Smile

I always wanted a Defender and I nearly bought one before, but I bought the Range instead. I foresee a third car in the not-too-distant future, if I can find somewhere to park it! I'll keep the (a?) Range though, because I wouldn't want to drive through Europe in a Defender, I don't think. The whole appeal of the Range is that it's big enough for family, dogs and luggage and you can waft down the Autobahn in comfort.

My other car is a Roadster, which is just for fun and sunny days really. Can't even get both dogs + driver in! But it does fit easily into car park spaces, which is more than can be said for the Range. Wink

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Andy3681



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I am 6'4" and struggle with driving a defender they will put up with a lot of abuse, however they are a working vehicle more than everyday transport they are also overpriced IMHO but that said a good one will last.
I mentioned disco as they are very capable off road a lot cheaper and can be used everyday. Mine was a blue one! Smile

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Bellini



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I'm 6ft 4" and have no problems driving, or fitting into, my 110.

It does have a smaller steering wheel and raised seat rails to lift the driver's seat up and let it go back more, though. My wife is 5ft 4" (like you, if I recall correctly) and drives mine a fair amount with no issues whatsoever.

I do leave mine for up to a month at a time and she always starts first turn of the key.

One of the best things about them, if you buy wisely, is pretty much zero depreciation. The downside is they're a thief magnet, so make sure yours (if you buy one) is secure.

For us, they're the ideal compliment to a RR. My RR does the long trips and holidays. My 110 does all the crappy jobs, although she used to be my main car and we've taken her across to Spain twice and around France, Italy and Scotland. They're not so bad once you're used to them, but I agree a RR is rather wonderful. Si. <This is my name.

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Andy3681



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It's my leg fowling the steering wheel that's the problem I never feel fully in control driving a defender, A smaller wheel and maybe altering the seat mounting/removing the bulkhead does help yet had a Series 2a for years with no problem. but we are getting off topic
sorry IP Mine was a blue one! Smile

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