Yes I have checked out that link, great info and pics there.
The quote was a typo

thanks

I've just been looking at my sister in laws, BMW Mini, it has a noisy cam drive. Looking online, the BMW N14 engine (which is also used by Peugeot) uses pretty much the same set up for the timing chain as the M62 (obviously it's only a straight 4). Seems the failing chain tensioners are a common fault on them. BMW have re-designed them several times. Add that to the swirl flaps on the 2ltr diesels that used to fall to bits and get sucked into the engine, I have to wonder why so many people rave about how good BMW's engineering is. It seems like they're no better than anyone else.

The timing and locking tool kits can be had for a lot less than £400.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M60-M62-M62T...SwI-BWILpQ

I got a brand new timing kit for M62 for $240us including shipping

Finally got to spend a day on the RR Vogue L322 timing issue.
My plan was to remove rocker covers and top cam covers to check timing chain position.

First step was to remove rocker covers and coil packs this all went well, looking at the LHS upper timing cover it appeared that I needed to remove the clutch fan.
Well that was not as easy as it sounds, after a million different attempts with the left hand thread I worked out I could do it with the fan on.(just)
I backed off the cams and went through the process of resetting the timing chain. I then spent the rest of the arvo putting it back together.
I then filled it will oil and water and started it.
The car took a few secconds to start then it started to run, the chains sounded rather quiet and the idle was a little rough like it had a vacuum issue of fuel issue.
On restarting the motor the next few times it felt like I had too keep the revs up to keep it running, when I took my foot off the accelerator the motor stalled. The engine light was also coming on.
Could it be old fuel ?
Bad fuel supply?
Vacuum leak?
Need to reset a code?
I just don't know what to do next.
Anybody experienced this before ?
Cheers
Danny

so you set the chain, and vanos wheels, and the vanos tin-plate 'markers', with the pointy tool ok?
i'm trying to remember this from 2 years ago. and the tensioner was wet with oil?

just an idea, it sounded from above, that you were going to find tht the fan was making a difference. is possible to carry on getting it off? you could also have a water pump bearing issue. can you derail the fan belt to stop any other noises etc. so you can hear better? obviously for only a few minutes, as water not circulating....

The car starts and runs then it would die out. It had an Engine Failsafe province fault which I reset this allowed the car to idle again.
The idle is still not great and I realised I have left the large o-ring on the intake off, I will pick this up in the next few days and see if it makes a difference.

Well, interesting thread. Unfortunately this doesn't bode well for my V8. Looking at the images, this is exactly the damage my motor is suffering from and I'm set out, to replace the whole motor. There's too much debris which, I fear, has rubbed in this motor.
What would you suggest, scrap the whole car

Click image to enlarge

did you fix it or scrap it ?

From that picture of the lower sump, you are looking at a load of shredded nylon pieces. From the chain guides.
These break up from brittleness, and age. However, apart from the chain now rubbing on the aluminium rail, that holds the nylon guide, which is now wearing away, (causing fine swarf), your oil strainer should, prevent any nylon going into the oilways. Any fine metal that does, should be filtered by the oil filter. So, as long as you realised, from th now noisy engine, and turned it off, you might find it would 'rebuild' ok.
I say this, as I had exactly this scenario, and similar 'pan of doom'
I basically cleaned out all I could, and when replacing the guides, flushed all faces, with solvent, and cleaned out the oil filter housing. After running up the 'rebuilt' engine, I changed the filter after 25 miles, and whipped off the pan, to find only a tiny piece left. Car now has 20k more, and running fine.
Should you think your bearings are run with swarf, you can replace those (standard) so long as you don't grind it.
But that means engine out.

That's what i was thinking, as long as the chain hasn't jumped any teeth it should be repairable. i think it was your thread Johnboyairey that i read about bringing the m62 back from the dead.
i just wondered if he saved it rather than scrapping it.
All my guides, chains and vanos bits are on order as we speak to do mine before they drop into the sump..

Hei Martin,
fikk meldingen, men jeg kan ikke svare på forumet. Ikke nok innlegg. Kan vi bruke e-post i stedenfor?

Hilsen

For those still wondering, I had decide to replace the whole motor. The workshop has ordered, but the motor delivered was not the one advertised, so by now, I'm still without drive and wondering how this is going to be sorted out.

I think your old motor would be fine after new chain guides and oil filter.  -08 3.6 Vogue
-87 951

Well, not that easy. It's in expert hands, so I trust in what they're doing.

I recently had same kind thing but caught mine very early and only had couple bits plastic in sump from one guide.

if anyone needs information on this send me a PM also have cost to fix breakdown from invoice. (LRS Engineering did a great job on mine!)

it is a 16-20hour job in labour which why its so expensive to fix but remember buying secondhand engine you can end up with same issue again in couple years. which is why i had mine fixed. once fixed the car has never run so good so smooth and silent.

had

Full Engine Refresh (all done same time)
New Timing Chains all three
New Timing guides
Cam Tensioners both sides
Side Tensioner
Front Main Seal
Brand New Vanos Units (no more diesel sound)
Front Radiator (not needed but was done on mine)
Thermostat (not needed but was done on mine)
Gearbox Cooler (not needed but was done on mine)
Power Steering Pump Refurb (not needed but was done on mine)
Pully Wheel
Replacement Belts
Vanos Solinoids
All New Gaksets.
and many new bolts. 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 -Maintenance History Click Here = http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic39687.html