Usually the only thing whining is the passenger but the engine has decided to chip in as well....

Anyone any ideas before I dive in...

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/ar...12b704.mp4

I thought it might be the Vanos rattle but after listening to some on YouTube I don't think it is.... Pete
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Please ignore the dodgy filming, I was trying to get the microphone closer...

I think it may be the alternator.... But wondered if anyone would know it...??? Pete
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Don't know it myself, but sounds a bearing type of noise, so could be alternator as you surmise.

A sure fire way to tell would be to take the belt off the pulley, but knowing BMW, it prob runs elsewhere as well.

I did wonder about timing chain tensioner or guides, but still seems more like a bearing to me....

Can you do the old listening test with a screwdriver ?

Vanos noise tends to be at the front of the cam covers, at least on the S62 engined M5's which are similar.....

Does it change if you load up the alternator ?

Is there any play in the pulley ? 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

sounds like alternator bearings or a belt tensioner to me, vanos (on the petrol engines at least) is more of a rattly noise. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Mark,

Being watercooled it sits in the water jacket low down and not very visible, only the front face is poking out, I have a stethoscope but can't get to it when the engine is running as the belts in the way....

I'm pretty sure it is that as I've had it before on other motors, just thought with the wealth of knowledge on here someone might recognise the exact noise....

Doing a refurb on my daughters Yaris at the moment, she lives in Kent and I don't get to see it much, rebuilt the front calipers, new discs and pads, rears stripped and cleaned, new rad, new fanbelt, new sump (a victim of it's own success... it's never had an oil leak so the sump has rusted out!!!) full service, visit from the paintless dent removal guy and a full valet... So I'll dive under my bonnet when I've finished that lot......  Pete
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northernmonkeyjones wrote:

sounds like alternator bearings or a belt tensioner to me, vanos (on the petrol engines at least) is more of a rattly noise.

If it is alternator, a rebuild thread is here for a 7 series, though I'm not sure it's the same engine ;

http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e38/alternator/index.htm

The one below covers removal from the BMW V8, though I know you have RAVE ;

http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e38/Alternator/E3...cement.htm

And a video of removal from an X5, though he has cheated and took the front of the car off first....



May come in useful. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Sounds like the alternator to me too... Are you sat down Pete....................... They cost undreds n undreds I'm afraid my friend...

Sounds like a bearing has failed, so in theory it can be stripped and the bearings replaced. So possibly doable for a few quids if you can get it out, and the outputs are still ok, personally wouldn't leave it too long as it would not be good if it seized. Worth a shot if they are as expensive as craig says, Marks link show they may be upto £800....... So worth a go. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Yea, prob not cheap for genuine new item, as Craig says.

Some on eBay used for less than a hundred quid.

Advanced Factors list one at £212 new, but no make listed. Steve is really helpful if you give him a call, if that's def the issue.....

Or Craig may be able to source one, and Dan at Duckworths can supply alternative parts to LR also.

Perhaps you will end up having to change some thread titles now "Tested Snorkel..... And Alternator"  2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Pete, let me know if you need one sir

Let it develop

Sounds like a cat to me

But if it is the alternator stand by for a big bill! Ours failed last year and I think (fitted) it was around the £1200 mark. Our total bill for that visit to the LR dealer was over two grand because it decided that it didn't like its fuel pump either so spit that out as well! I think that was about £800!

Getting to the stage now where we can't sell it as mechanically almost everything is brand new!

Strangely, yours is the same colour as ours and about the same age! Ours I think is a 2003 on a '52' plate originally, now done 108K miles

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Thanks for the help guys, I'll dive in next week and sort it one way or another...

Can get a rebuilt one with 1 year warranty for £160 so not too bad...

Craig, I'll be in touch if I need one...

Paul, you maybe right, one of the cats does rattle first thing before it heats up so it could be that but I do think it sounds more like a bearing....

Mark, I'll have a read...

Cheers chaps.... Pete
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