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red_slr



Member Since: 06 Oct 2010
Location: Manchester
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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zermatt Silver
L322 4.4 Gearbox recon / repair Manchester

Well... after having my L322 for 2 years now I am going to have to bite the bullet and get the gearbox sorted.
Its not been right since I bought it and its been into a local specialist (A1) and they confirm its goosed.
Anyone know any good local gearbox specialists in the area - but that are reasonable on price? Confused Range Rover Vogue 4.4 (2003)

Post #146223 13th Oct 2012 8:13am
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trainmanone



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England 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Oslo Blue

try land ranger in stockport have hawkeye diagnostics for l322 td6 in the manchester area ,pm for deatalis.

Post #146228 13th Oct 2012 10:17am
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RRPhil



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What exactly is your 5HP24 doing that it shouldn't be doing (or not doing that it should be)?

Are you able to remove & refit the transmission yourself (or know someone that can)?

Phil

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red_slr



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zermatt Silver

If it does not require any diag kit then quite probably can remove myself.
It judders, on light loads and up hills. Its stalling too - at start up it sometimes does it - like the engine is being stalled by the box - and sometimes it stalls as you come to a junction and just as you come to a stop it stalls too.

The main problem is the judder though, its slowly getting worse. I suspect it might be the torque converter. Range Rover Vogue 4.4 (2003)

Post #146274 13th Oct 2012 6:46pm
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RRPhil



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All of those issues sound lock-up clutch related. The LUC is preloaded ‘on’ by these tangential springs

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(which also act as driving straps to remove any backlash between the LUC piston and the turbine) so unless hydraulic pressure holds the piston ‘off’ the engine will stall. It’s possible that there’s a separate seal problem or a hydraulic control issue but I'd say there’s a very good chance that all the issues you’re experiencing are caused by problems within the torque converter assembly.

If you remove the transmission, send the torque converter to JPAT or Sussex Auto Parts for re-manufacture and then re-install everything the whole job should cost less than £300. There’s no requirement to open up the transmission for a TC swap and there's no requirement for any diagnostic kit.

Phil

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Rob2529



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Phil, don't have any problems but so pleased your on this forum. You knowledge and understanding is second to none! Bow down Bow downBow downBow down [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
04, 4.4V8, Vogue Oslo Blue with LPG.
"You can sleep in your car, BUT you can't race your house!!!!"

If something can't be fixed with a hammer....... You have yourself an electrical fault!

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47p2



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Yes I agree with Rob, a real asset to us lesser beings, just a shame you don't do the TD6 box Big Cry

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red_slr



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zermatt Silver

Thanks Phil. Are any special tools required for removal of the box or TC? I have RAVE. I have a lot of tools - so I guess I might be ok. Thanks again! Range Rover Vogue 4.4 (2003)

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jdog30014467



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 V8 Java Black

hi there im new to this site and have been reading through your posts and it seems like your the man I need to talk to im not to sure how it works so hopefully am posting in the right place. Here goes ibought my rr 4.4 v8 recently and it vibrates when I get to 25 mph 1500 rpm [ cattlegrid effect ] it only happens at low throtle in third gear but disappears after 40 mph and doesn't happen in manual/sport ive read a lot of these threads and this sounds like torque converter failure ! all my gear changes are fine so im hoping ive caught this problem early also there is no judder whenim in manual/sport my car has down 125000 miles and I don't think the box has ever been touched before , could anyone tell me the process of how to pinpoint the exact problem pls or any other relevant info would be much appreciated thanks. 2003 range rover se autobiography 4.4 v8

Post #238109 29th Jan 2014 10:24pm
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RRPhil



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You need to watch your rev counter needle closely while it’s making the cattle grid noise to see if it moves up and down (only by 100 rpm or so) in sympathy with the noise. If it does, you have a lock-up clutch problem with your torque converter and it needs to be replaced.

Phil

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jdog30014467



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 V8 Java Black

hi and thanks for the reply ,yeah it seems like when the vibrating starts the needle stays still for a second or 2 then jumps up a bit but only by about 100rpm like you said. Would you say I need a my converter recond ? and also someone has suggested just getting the whole gearbox done but thatll be pricey so if I can get away with it id rather not what do you think,thanks

Post #238454 31st Jan 2014 10:16am
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