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TtheArab



Member Since: 26 Apr 2013
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2003 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

Just picked up 2003 4.4 for £6900. 54k on the clock and a lot of irritating things needing sorted (most done now) from brakes, rear wiper, replacement hi-light, new tyres, front diff failure & fix, new battery. Add in optional buys because I tinker : full set of calipers for powder coating, chromed grille etc and think its already swallowed a decent chunk of cash.

Brembos on way which will mean swap out of 18" alloys and of course always the potential for gearbox meltdown with TFSP errors tho potentiometer is likely culprit. I am going to have spare gearbox in garage just in case (will always get £ back on it alone).

All in all still a happy bunny as even if it costs me £10k over next 2-3 yrs it is likely to be replaced 80-90k mileage and have had all niggles sorted. I suspect I will still get £3-4k then despite tax. I also get to drive around in something I love driving v's some anaemic soulless but "reliable" dull-mobile.

Not as good as last FFRR tho. P38 for £2.5k incl fitted LPG and lasted 3 yrs before gearbox failed. Very Happy

Post #185483 29th Apr 2013 12:48pm
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RR2008HSE



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Canada 2008 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

kingpleb wrote:
Anything over 100k has a stigma and anything over 140/150k is often seen as clapped out by the average Joe Public Sad


These Range Rovers are big, heavy durable cars with large, low reving engines. I would expect them to go farther and last longer than a little ecobox with a 1.0L engine.

You might be right, but I'd hope that a properly taken care of FFRR with 150K miles would still have a lot of life in it.

Post #185676 30th Apr 2013 12:53am
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kingpleb



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Bonatti Grey

The thing is they are a bit like big yank tanks in that they will spend a lot of time cruising at speeds well over 40mpg a lot of the time on highways and biways.

A little 1.0litre eurobox turd is likely to be more a city dweller and thus get a fair amount of gear changing and abuse about a town. FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
Mantec Sump Guard, Rigid Load liner, MY10 BT upgrade.

Post #185725 30th Apr 2013 8:31am
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United Kingdom 2019 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

My view is this:

1. I want a car I love to drive, every single day
2. As I cover about 25K/year I want something stuffed with toys and creature comforts to make those miles more fun
3. I also need a car to be safe, and a big RR I feel is safer to be in than a 1.0 Eurobox
4. I don't have many vices, but I do love Range Rovers, so it's my main indulgence
5. I never expect to make money on a car, it's a cost, a big one
6. Everyone 'knows' me by my car, it's part of who I am (Not in a snob way, but the fact I'm so passionate about Land Rovers and Range Rovers in particular), so I think I'd look odd in anything else!

So in summary:

"If you're going to be a Bear, be a Grizzly!" Very Happy Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

Post #185729 30th Apr 2013 8:50am
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Contraband



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^ I agree with all of the above. I posted this as a guide to whoever was interested in the costs of buying and running a 2nd hand FFRR. I loved the car. I look forward to my next. It was never a financial decision to replace it, more one of function.
If it was financial then I would have kept it as it has cost me thousands over the money I got for it to buy a Porsche and a Honda crv. FFRR is still, in my book, the best vehicle on the road today. Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

Post #185736 30th Apr 2013 9:14am
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Flashman



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England 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

At the end of the day, as far as we can prove you only get one life.

I would rather enjoy part of it in my Range Rover rather than saving some pennies, driving a soulless tin box and kicking the bucket after only ever experiencing mundane A to B driving. Tom

Current Drive
2011 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - Santorini Black - Ivory Leather

Previous Drives
2004 Model Vogue Td6 (Touchscreen) - Java Black - Parchment Leather
1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

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TtheArab



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2003 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

Agreed Flashman and BTW we sold our Porsche 911 6 weeks ago as we just didnt use it and TBH didnt enjoy it anywhere as near as much as I enjoy driving around in the RR. Horses for courses or is that for burgers ???

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Flashman



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England 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

Rolling with laughter Tom

Current Drive
2011 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - Santorini Black - Ivory Leather

Previous Drives
2004 Model Vogue Td6 (Touchscreen) - Java Black - Parchment Leather
1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

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Phil.



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United Kingdom 2019 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black
Re: Depreciation ... A few figures for you.

Contraband wrote:

Ps. Don't feel sad for me, I am looooooooving my Porsche !


From experience your Porsche is going to cost a lot more per mile. But who cares! Enjoy Wink

Which model of Porsche did you choose? MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

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Contraband



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I bought a Cayman. Again, Selling the FFRR had nothing to do about cost.

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Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

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Phil.



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United Kingdom 2019 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

Lovely and its supposed to be the best handling of the Porsche range. MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

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supershuttle



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England 2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Luxor

I'm sure I've been hit hard by depreciation - but hey ho. My wife can't understand it when I am outside bodging and messing with an old car that sometimes won't start - she says one grumpy and unpredictable thing in the house is enough Rolling Eyes

Thirty years of company cars behind me, all reliable, under warranty, fully financed by someone else - some of them really great cars but I don't miss 'em but I think my RR I would miss if I sold it. I always wanted a Range Rover and none of those schemes allowed 4x4 vehicles and I couldn't be Censored opting out.

Also I think for the latter cars I paid tax of about £9k/annum, but not sure as I never worked it out, I bet someone can - 70k car and a higher rate taxpayer. Very Happy Geoff

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RRV



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United Kingdom 2015 Range Rover Vogue TDV6 Santorini Black

So in summary:

"If you're going to be a Bear, be a Grizzly!" Very Happy[/quote]

Thumbs Up Laughing Laughing Love that! If you have nothing nice to say,say nothing at all.

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