Gazellio wrote:

Vogue wrote:

Oh Yes, Clarkson is good


I love Clarkson

Theres more.......

Like the original (BMW X5), it’s clever from a technical standpoint but times have to be good for a car like this to make sense. And they aren’t. So it doesn’t. If you need a tall off-road car, buy a Range Rover diesel. If you need a five-seater that is fun, buy an M5. Don’t try to buy something that combines both things because what the X5 M proves is that really, it can’t be done. Jeremy Clarkson - Times Online Driving

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You are comparing the X5 M to the Range Rover

I once strayed from the RR fold to a mercedes ml and it took me 6 weeks to return and not left since , No other car has the same presence of the RRFF , I have to admit that the ML and th X5 perform and handle better than RRFF but theyre just ot the same

I think we all all struggling to agree here really.

The X5 is no offroad 4X4 wherby the FFRR and the RRS are excellent both on and off road.

For Non Off Roaders the X5 35d may be as good or better than the RRS (Jury out)

The latest X5 35d obviously has a very good engine but its less torque-y than the 3.6l TDV8.

LR are introducing a 4.4l TDV8 soon so I wonder how that torque monster will compare with the new X5 40d engine?

Either way the FFRR TDV8 or S/C remains King of the Road

Interesting thoughts chaps. Keep them comming.

I'm still evaluating options but an early FFRR is still where I'd like to go to. Still need to sell the current toys (M3 and V8 Defender).

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V8 Defender

fantastic, details please

Vogue wrote:

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You are comparing the X5 M to the Range Rover

durrr, no, Clarkson was, I was comparing it to a Sport.

EDWARD757 wrote:

To be fair I am still slightly torn as the 35d engine is fantastic and should be much cheaper to run (fuel and tax). However we will most likely go for a FFRR as that is what we really want and I doubt i will be forever looking at X5s wishing I had bought one of them instead.

You won't. Period. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

Vogue wrote:

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V8 Defender

fantastic, details please

Why on earth is there a discussion of RRS against an X5 on this forum?

I tourght this was a forum about the best of the best.

If you read the whole thread its X5 V FFRR and FFRR wins

(RRS is only brought in as a closer direct comparison to X5)

Why don't YOU read.

'For Non Off Roaders the X5 35d may be as good or better than the RRS (Jury out)'

You have even mentioned RRS

nbunney wrote:

Why don't YOU read.

'For Non Off Roaders the X5 35d may be as good or better than the RRS (Jury out)'

You have even mentioned RRS

That post was a summary of the points discussed during the thread. RRS was mentioned in comparison to the X5 earlier so I included it in my summary.

Why are you so concerned about that the RRS its not exactly a distant relation of the FFRR. Try avoiding this thread if it offends you.

Gazellio, for your info the RRS is based on the Disco, not the full fat

There's no wrong or right here, it's all personal choice.

If you ask a RR form to choose the answers obvious, Ask the BMW forum to choose and again you know what they'll say.

For me the presence of the FFRR beats the X5, if your choosing between both then I'd certainly take them out back to back on long test drives and also think hard about your needs.

If it's mostly town driving the X5 is easier to manage. If you want a 4x4 that works and looks good then it's the RR! TDV8 HST Sport **Current**

4.4 V8 Autobiography and 22" wheels **Gone**