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JustinP



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A 4.2 SC was the first FFRR I drove, and compared to my previous Mercedes ML270 CDI it felt bloody awesome. Since then I've driven the 3.6TDV8 and a 4.4TDV8 and I must say I would not not swap my 4.2 SC for either, despite the improved fuel economy that the diesel gives.

So when the time comes to let mine go, I will be looking for a 5.0 SC. 
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i seem to have opened a real can of worms here!!!

guys i am a true green oval fan and have owned a few in my time and have driven all round the world on every continent in one, so no arguing about their capabilities.

i still stand by my statement and say that i could and would put a touareg anywhere you could put a FFRR!!

with the same features as on the FF, air suspension, centre and rear locking diffs etc the car is as capable as any L/R product.

i have seen people in L/R's Bottle out of some things and watch the VW go through without a hitch, that is of course as much down to driver skill as anything else.

not wanting an argument, but still standing by what i said having lived with one of these for 3 years.

Hugi.. i know what you mean about retro fits. VW/Audi are very expensive for this, but there is always a solution to get round things. i was lucky and had all the knobs a dials in mine, it was a 2008 model. i agree again about German cars, too efficient and souless really. at least the FF has a character and yes there is that badge issue too.

once again guys just my opinions, if you haven't owned one i can't see how you can really make an informed choice!! Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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stu wrote:
with the same features as on the FF, air suspension, centre and rear locking diffs etc the car is as capable as any L/R product


On similar tyres I think the only real areas where a Touareg or Cayenne will lose out is ground clearance and wheel travel (maybe less of an issue on a Cayenne with the detachable anti-roll bars).

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stu



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go on then, let's keep this going a bit longer.. Laughing

done a bit of googling and came up with some stats.

these are for a Touareg and RRSC

Ground Clearance = VW-11.8" RRSC= 10.8"

App Angle VW- 33 degs RRSC- 34 degs

Dept Angle VW- 33 degs RRSC- 26.6 degs

with these stats you can see how similar these cars are. i still stand by my statements that this is a very good car and a serious alternative to the FF. This is not a mickey mouse SUV, but a serious 4x4 vehicle.

lets face it a Bowler wildcat or nemisis are nothing like their defender or RRS production cars brothers but are superb off road vehicles.

this must be the same for the Touareg Racing 3 which has swept up on the Dakar rally for the last three years.

ok guys the war of words has gone on long enough, i am now holding up a white flag... Thumbs Up Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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Post #75179 7th Aug 2011 6:20pm
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Hey Stu

I dont wanna argue anymore which car is better offroad but I have only one question:

did you use your touareg offroad? Very Happy

and if yes,do you have pictures? Laughing

but I have to admit: a touareg is certainly better offroad than other german cars like the x5 or the q7

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I used to love taking my touareg off road, racing round all over the place. It was awesome. I had to collect cans of BP Ultimate along the track.... Oh wait a minute that was a Miniclip game!

See what happens when you take it off road: http://www.miniclip.com/games/bp-ultimate-rally-challenge/en/ 

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dan_uk_1984 wrote:
I used to love taking my touareg off road, racing round all over the place. It was awesome. I had to collect cans of BP Ultimate along the track.... Oh wait a minute that was a Miniclip game!

See what happens when you take it off road: http://www.miniclip.com/games/bp-ultimate-rally-challenge/en/


I thought my supercharged is thirsty.. but hell this touareg is really thirsty Rolling with laughter

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why we talking bloody souless VW again, the other day a golf gti now this, come on.... Rolling Eyes 2004 black Vogue TD6

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stu wrote:
ok guys the war of words has gone on long enough, i am now holding up a white flag... Thumbs Up

Sorry - must continue to flog... Razz

One of the only mags I've ever read that really tried to standardize off road testing was a German mag called 4wheelfun (silly name - good mag although they've gone all-online). They test somewhere in ex-GDR (IIRC) on tank development grounds where a great deal of effort was put into testing over varying terrain while keeping conditions equal.

Click image to enlarge


Up until a couple of months ago the RR was #1 for several years running - better than the Defender, MB G-Wagen, all Jeeps, etc. Just recently it was pushed to the #2 spot by the... ...LR4. The Dew-rag was never even close to the top 10,

Unfortunately there are no English versions, but the articles are a good read even with google translator (and quite amusing at times- never realized the RR's have landing gear) - and the pics are nice.

RR test: http://www.4wheelfun.de/supertest/land-rov...03267.html
Dew-rag test: http://www.4wheelfun.de/supertest/vw-touar...03575.html
To 10: http://www.4wheelfun.de/bilder/die-besten-...how_item=1 
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Scraping LR bellies? Laughing 
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@ Hugi ... i was never arguing or saying which was the better car, all i said was the Touareg is a very capable 4x4.

yes i did some off roading in it and it did all i asked of it. the key to your success to be honest is decent tyres, without them even the mighty FFRR will get stuck.

sorry i don't have any pics.

these are my last words on the subject due to the fact that it has obviously annoyed some people on here and that was never the intention. Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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can we stay on topic now please..... Thumbs Up

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