Hi

Does anyone know if there is a way to read TPMS ID from wheels without having to physically remove them?

Thanks

AFAIK you don't need to, pretty sure the car just talks to them if they are fitted to the fatty....  Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
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Thanks.

I have been through this ordeal before and have first hand experience.

Every TPMS has a unique ID. That needs to be programmed to Range Rover via Path Finder JLR tool only.

E. G. If you are changing wheels but move the TPMS to new wheels then yes, driving it a few miles will work. As the vehicle will have IDs stored already.
If however you install new wheels with other Tpms sensors, then you will need to program them. E. G. You got new TPMS or the wheels you are installing have Tpms already.

Imagine if they were as you describe, auto program, how would it know if it isn't a nearby Tpms from other vehcile. Or how would it identify left from right etc.

I any case, last time I went to a few tyres shops and none could program. It requires Path Finder tool.

You can have two sets of TPMS programmed only. So you can have summer wheels and winter wheels. But you can't have a third set.

I am surprised not many know this as every garage or tyre place I called were confident they could do it and then said they can't.

Hate to burst your bubble on this but on both my Fatties (2017 and 2018) they detected a new set of wheels/TPMS sensors without programming, IIRC it just took a 5 minute drive.

The system is able to detect which sensor is on which wheel by the variation in signal level as the wheel rotates.

From the workshop manual

Quote:

The TPMS locates the position of the tire automatically. This function requires no manual intervention by the driver. The TPMS automatically learns the position of tires on the vehicle if the tire pressure sensors or their positions are changed on the vehicle.

The tire learn and location process is ready to start when the vehicle has been stationary, or is travelling at less than 20 km/h (12.5 mph) for 15 minutes. This is known as 'Parking mode'. The learn/locate process requires the vehicle to be driven at speeds of more than 20 km/h (12.5 mph) for 15 minutes. If the vehicle speed reduces to below 20 km/h (12.5 mph), the learn process timer is suspended until the vehicle speed increases to more than 20 km/h (12.5 mph), after which time the timer is resumed. If the vehicle speed remains below 20 km/h (12.5 mph) for more than 15 minutes, the timer is set to zero and process starts again.

The TPMS can automatically detect, under all operating conditions, the following:

If 1 or more tire pressure sensors have been replaced.
If 1 or more tire pressure sensor identifications are missing.
If 1 or more ‘alien’ identifications are being received (the TPMS will reject these signals).
Identifications from tire pressure sensors that do not belong to the vehicle.
If 1 of the tires in use on the vehicle have exchanged position on the vehicle.
If 1 or more incompatible tire pressure sensors have been installed.
If the tire pressure sensors installed to the running wheels are changed, the TPMS can learn the new sensor identifications automatically. The learn function requires no manual intervention by the driver.

This has been discussed here as well:
[url]https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic62267.html

I can install the wheels and report back. It might mean a few more trips to tyre shop etc but for the sake of experiment I will try it again.

Also attached screenshot shows the Tpms being programmed via Pathfinder. I don't want to 'prove' you wrong and I am sincerely hoping you are correct and last time was just a bad luck.







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Cheap fix... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

FWIW I had the same experience as the Horseman on my 2015 - new wheels and sensors AOK with no programming required.