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garyRR



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How to identify an L405 with massage seats?

Hi All,

I'm considering taking the plunge from my trusty L322 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE to a L405 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography.

Having recently had an E Class with massage seats, this has become a must-have for me on my next car.

So, my question is:

Which model years of the Autobiography were fitted with massage seats as standard?

And on years where it wasn't standard, how can I identify if a vehicle has massage seats when looking at photos? Is the seat appearance or form slightly different? Are there any extra buttons on the seats or centre console? Is there a setting in the infotainment system, or is there a site to look up the reg of the vehicle and factory fitted options?


Also, I'm assuming the engine remained largely the same as the TDV8, but wanted to check the below are still all true items of maintenance to look out for:

Oil filter housing o-rings
Exhaust gas temperature sensor
Air conditioning compressor
Alternator
Donut hoses 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Post #683160 19th Jan 2024 7:46am
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MrWold



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Barolo Black

Mine massages MrsWold and me. Chris

2014 FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Barolo Black
2012 RRS SDV6 HSE Baltic Blue
and before I saw the light:
2011 Suzuki Grand Vitara SZ5
1998 Ford Mondeo V6 Ghia X
1990 Citroen BX GTi
1973 Triumph GT6

Post #683166 19th Jan 2024 9:05am
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caymanblack



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United Kingdom 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Carpathian Grey

As far as I know, I thought all AB,s have this.
I never use mine though so I could not care less if it did not have them. overfinch modified

Post #683169 19th Jan 2024 9:47am
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rstoughy



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

On mine (2013 AB) there is nothing in the front to indicate it. When I press the seat button next to the Hazard switch the screen then displays the massage / heat and cooling options for the front.

I have the Executive seating in the rear and they have easily identifiable massage buttons for each seat.

Love that function. I use mine all the time.

Post #683930 26th Jan 2024 9:01am
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garyRR



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Thanks all.

I have now bought a 2015 Autobiography 4.4 SDV8.

One question though, I can't figure out the driver seat auto massage? I press auto and 60 minutes, then next time I start the engine, it doesn't come on automatically, and I have to go into the menu to turn it on. What am I doing wrong? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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caymanblack



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nothing , I believe you have to set it again after an engine stop start. overfinch modified

Post #683936 26th Jan 2024 10:19am
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garyRR



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I'm still struggling to understand how the "Auto" system works.

If I turn the massage seat on manually with Auto off, it turns off after 10 minutes.

And If I turn Auto on, I still have to turn on the massage seat manually after engine start, and regardless whether I set 60 minutes, the seat still turns off after 10 minutes.

Any ideas or guides on proper operation?

Turning it back on every 10 minutes on a long journey is a bit annoying! 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Post #684441 31st Jan 2024 5:21pm
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DrF



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Orkney Grey

my massage is set to come on 5mins into journey, should hold programme once set, never had to change mine and always works.

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

garyRR wrote:
I'm still struggling to understand how the "Auto" system works.

If I turn the massage seat on manually with Auto off, it turns off after 10 minutes.

And If I turn Auto on, I still have to turn on the massage seat manually after engine start, and regardless whether I set 60 minutes, the seat still turns off after 10 minutes.

Any ideas or guides on proper operation?

Turning it back on every 10 minutes on a long journey is a bit annoying!


Gary, auto turn on means it turns on automatically after driving for 5mins 10mins 20mins or even 60mins... They only work for 10mins at a time... So however annoying, that's how the system works unfortunately sir... Thumbs Up

Post #684487 1st Feb 2024 12:52am
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garyRR



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Thank you for clarifying.

Do you know if the timing can be changed in the CCF, or if the timing is driven from the head unit or the seat ECU (I.e. would an Android head unit have the possibility to keep it on longer)? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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No sir, I’ve looked into this and alas! It’s fixed at 10mins internally and I couldn’t find a way of lengthening it… Sorry! Thumbs Up

Post #684661 3rd Feb 2024 10:33am
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Urotex



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United States 2007 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Buckingham Blue

best I can tell, this is a standard option on the AB trim primarily.
I have seen a few Westminster's with Massage seats added, but they don't have the door panel button. On the later models, there is an extra button above the seat adjust on the door panel.

Post #691556 29th Apr 2024 7:42pm
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mikemike39



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My first Range Rover L405 SDV8 was a Vogue with a few key extras. The "seat upgrade" was one of them, so the front seats were HCM and the rear HC.

I used to search Autotrader and pick Vogue and add "massage" as a search term.

I enjoyed the search and eventually the perfect car appeared at Land Rover Exeter and I bought it

5 years later I've traded it for a very late model SDV8 but this time autobiography and I've made sure it had the "hot stone" massage seats. They are fine but not very different from massage plus heated seats on at the same time, for me.

Cheers Mike

Post #691580 30th Apr 2024 7:44am
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garyRR



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Thanks everyone for your responses. I have since gone and bought an L405 Autobiography. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Post #691583 30th Apr 2024 7:53am
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