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DrRob Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire Posts: 4301 |
Whole top hose assembly. Not available any other way I’m afraid Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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28th Apr 2023 4:58pm |
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fisha Member Since: 25 Sep 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 1350 |
I’ve seen a thread on here where someone inserted a small length of metal tube to act like a stent. It was epoxied into the large pipe first and then the smaller pipe epoxied onto the bit of metal tube by sliding it over.
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28th Apr 2023 6:34pm |
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mjdronfield Member Since: 04 Nov 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 7793 |
As above, can fix it yourself or you need the full assembly and rubber pipes. Not much change from £100 if I remember right.
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28th Apr 2023 6:43pm |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16281 |
IMHO its quite a risk trying to fix/tap a fitting into the broken pipe... Its not like its an expensive fix compared to an engine |
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29th Apr 2023 1:16am |
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DrRob Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire Posts: 4301 |
I’m with Craig on this… Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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29th Apr 2023 8:26am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3195 |
Given the inherent weakness of the original design and the easily identifiable stress fracture point a good repair with a metal sleeve is likley stronger than OE 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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29th Apr 2023 8:50am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8190 |
IMHO it is still a ticking time bomb... the plastic has a "life" when it starts to degrade and break at the smallest and most stressed part then it will just keep on deteriorating and break at the next stress point..
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29th Apr 2023 9:32am |
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JMC Member Since: 01 Feb 2009 Location: Aberdeen-Angus Posts: 755 |
Spare parts which should be on every 4.4 TDV8 owners shelf:
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29th Apr 2023 10:37am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3195 |
@haylands. Not heard of any other part of that assembly breaking so wouldn’t regard it as a ‘ticking time-bomb’. It’s simply a poorly designed ( Ford) part and should have had a metal reinforcing sleeve or had better stress relief profile in the plastic. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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29th Apr 2023 11:57am |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16281 |
If you take a look at the small plastic pipe that leads onto the top of the intake via a clip on connector, much like a diesel fuel connector. And then the same type that run across the top of the radiator to the expansion tank. All of these fail over time so, this side of the coolant system indeed can be a ticking time bomb as Haylands said…
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29th Apr 2023 6:29pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3195 |
The engine bay is full of fragile parts just waiting to fail but not all are ‘ticking time bombs’. Infact I think the only genuine items that could be described in such hysterical terms are absent from the 4.4 - crankshafts on the V6 and egr valves on the 3.6 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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29th Apr 2023 10:03pm |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8190 |
So sorry to offend....
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30th Apr 2023 2:15pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3195 |
I'm not aware of any 'disastrous outcomes' i.e loss of an engine from such a failure. It's a small bore pipe so can't suddenly dump the entire coolant and you would get a low coolant warning and sufficient time to do something about it. Repairing the component with a metal sleeve makes it stronger than the original weak plastic part so I'm again unsure how this becomes a 'ticking time bomb' that can result in a seized engine? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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30th Apr 2023 4:21pm |
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andygts Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 351 |
It wouldn't cost that much to have someone knock a complete assembly up out of aluminium. If I'm looking at it right all it needs is a length of pipe approx 2" pipe swaged at both ends and barbed fittings welding on either side.
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5th May 2023 8:15am |
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