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aja500



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Defender P400e PHEV with improved battery / electric range?

I'm looking to buy my wife a Defender P400e PHEV through work, mainly in order to take advantage of the BIK before it no doubt gets scrapped, but I've noticed that the "battery only" range on this car is only 27 miles (real world reported as around 20!).

Before I place an order, does anyone know if there are any imminent plans to release an updated version of this car with an improved battery range?

Post #654945 28th Jan 2023 8:30am
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I can't comment on any specific plans JLR have with this but my own observations across all manufacturers since I started looking at PHEVs about 5 years ago is that none of them look to have made much improvement to the electric range.
Are PHEVs going to be obsolete come the great changeover?, if so it strikes me as unlikely that anyone will be putting much effort into improving them.

Post #654958 28th Jan 2023 11:47am
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aja500



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Thanks Cass - I've since learned that there are no tax breaks associated with the Defender PHEV, as the CO2 is over 50g! So, looks like I'll be scrapping that idea.

Post #654972 28th Jan 2023 3:42pm
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Re: Defender P400e PHEV with improved battery / electric ran

aja500 wrote:
I've noticed that the "battery only" range on this car is only 27 miles (real world reported as around 20!).


This sounds about right to me.
If you want any more distance on electric then you want an EV.

In the UK 90% of journeys are under 10 miles so a 20 mile range is perfect.

If you typically only do longer journeys then a PHEV isn't the right car for you. 2000 P38 4.0 HSE auto - RHD - just needs a little love.

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ilard



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The Defender uses the D7 platform. The new Range Rover, with extended OHEWV range / battery uses the modern MLA platform. It is the MLS platform that enables more battery space, so, no, I do not think the Defender will get better PHEW range any time soon. As an L405 PHEV owner, I will say that the 20 miles or so is still quite useful from a driver experience point of view Thumbs Up . MPG or cost-wise I do not care so I cannot comment. All-told the Defender is epic, it certainly looks marvellous, so I would go for it and enjoy it for what it is. Or buy a Leaf and add a trailer! Laughing L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso

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20 miles electric range will be useful for a lot of people, but if you’re buying based on the tax benefits then to get a decent saving you need at least 40 miles range as well as co2 below 50. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
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Post #657618 24th Feb 2023 6:54am
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