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pw1



Member Since: 05 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 28

United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

I'm a deposit payer of 11 months and 2 weeks, 440e HSE and been told I'm at least 6 months away from seeing the vehicle due to shortages on black 22" wheels, elec deploy tow bar and black birch interior. Was told 9-12 months at point of order.

Currently left without a vehicle and have been offered a cancelled order defender X dynamic HSE phev which I have took as a interim car. Its built but has been delayed due to lack of transport! What's the betting my RR gets pulled forward the day after I pickup the Defender up...… 2023 Defender p400e
L460 on order
2016 Range Rover Sport gone
2011 Discovery 4 hse gone
2008 Discovery 3 hse gone
2006 Discovery 3 S gone
2004 Defender x tech gone but certainly not forgotten…..

Post #655325 1st Feb 2023 8:41am
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DJIT



Member Since: 17 Feb 2019
Location: Hampshire
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Was advised last week that Defenders are no longer attracting a strong premium. Possibly £500 above retail if selling to a main dealer. Maybe the supply chain on Defender is fixed. Not sure if this influences your decision but thought I would share.

Post #656048 8th Feb 2023 3:33pm
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AndyS



Member Since: 27 Feb 2016
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Anyone trying to obtain the best return should ask their selling dealer to SOR it for a small'ish fee. I'm not sure how many dealers offer this but mine does and it's worth asking as you get the premium and they don't. Whistle
Don't forget they've had payment of full list price so they've done very well financially from the first transaction. Current fleet:
2020 McLaren 600LT Spider
2020 Mercedes C300 Cabriolet
2023 PHEV 440 SE
1992 Lotus Esprit turbo
2019 Alpine A110

Post #656053 8th Feb 2023 4:41pm
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CS



Member Since: 14 Apr 2015
Location: Edinburgh
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Scotland 2017 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Corris Grey

DJIT: Apparently Defenders have some spec shortages, but subject to that the order to delivery time was said to be about 12 weeks. Only Range Rovers since 1988

Post #656063 8th Feb 2023 5:34pm
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Yousif



Member Since: 26 May 2012
Location: Lakes
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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue
Delivery date issued

OK, so finally got a call from my dealer saying they are expecting my P440e HSE (Portofino Blue with Perlino) on 17 March. I ordered 6 Feb 2022 on a Personal Contract Hire so was beginning to think it would be bottom of the waiting list. As expected the audio is downgraded to standard and they have removed the space saving spare wheel (was an option when I ordered but they must have realised that a weedy spare can't cope with the PHEV's weight so no longer available). Otherwise no other options specc'd.

We'll see if it turns up then but I'm relieved that they are honouring the original deal and not passing on the £5k increase and they confirmed the price goes down a little as there is a £500 refund for the audio and the cost of the spare wheel.

So for those still waiting hang on in there, it could turn up any time!

Post #656487 13th Feb 2023 3:29pm
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Bill



Member Since: 18 Nov 2017
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I would expect more than£500 for a missing spare wheel, others seems to be getting a better discount for the change in radio spec. Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

Post #656505 13th Feb 2023 4:59pm
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Yousif



Member Since: 26 May 2012
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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

I wasn't very clear, the spare is being refunded in full and the audio to £500 which seems to be par for the course in other threads.

Post #656506 13th Feb 2023 5:05pm
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Phil.



Member Since: 19 Apr 2010
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You did well not paying the £5k price increase. That’s the first dealer I know that hasn’t passed it on. Are you a long-term customer? MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

Post #656515 13th Feb 2023 6:31pm
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Autobiography



Member Since: 10 May 2011
Location: UK
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2018 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

I believe customers who ordered before a date in April 2022 are price protected from the manufacturer. Whether the dealer is honourable or not is another thing. My P530 First Edition was delivered at the price it was specced at in September 2021.

In other news, my P530 SV has been slotted for build in April. I ordered this in June 2022 and it’s my second L460. I do think they are building the higher margin cars where possible as this wait hasn’t been much at all.

Post #656526 13th Feb 2023 8:35pm
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Phil.



Member Since: 19 Apr 2010
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I ordered Nov 21. £5k increase applied about a year later. Delivery in a few weeks. MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

Post #656527 13th Feb 2023 8:46pm
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Hissinsid



Member Since: 29 Sep 2018
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Ordered Jan ‘22, built beginning of this month, delivery to dealers this week.

HSE D350 with some options ticked.

Post #656553 14th Feb 2023 8:11am
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Phil.



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Same spec as mine. Were you charged the £5k price increase? MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

Post #656555 14th Feb 2023 9:17am
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Hissinsid



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Ill drop you a PM

Post #656559 14th Feb 2023 9:42am
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Yousif



Member Since: 26 May 2012
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Phil. wrote:
You did well not paying the £5k price increase. That’s the first dealer I know that hasn’t passed it on. Are you a long-term customer?


I had my iPace from the same dealer but I don't think I got special treatment, just that when you sign a Personal Contract Hire contract as I did in Feb 2022 its a contract with a specific price and there are no clauses to allow price variations as there may be in a purchase contract. Still a relief that they didn't wriggle out of it and apparently they tried but the dealer pushed back, or so I was told. Everyone wins as unless resale prices plummet their residual value when I give in back in 3 years will be higher probably than what they priced the PCH deal on and I save a couple of hundred £/month+ against what it would cost to PCH now.

Not counting chickens yet as I still need it to turn up!

Post #656561 14th Feb 2023 10:01am
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Phil.



Member Since: 19 Apr 2010
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Ahh, I think it’s because you signed a binding finance contract early on that made the difference and meant they couldn’t change it. If they had delayed the signing the contract until it was built, the dealer would have changed it to reflect the price increase. MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

Post #656577 14th Feb 2023 11:43am
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