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Phoenix



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Agree, I don't think they are there to illuminate, more to warn - hence the white light, which is to indicate a vehicle moving towards you. The L319/320 have the reversing lights outboard so do illuminate the extents better, I do think a better 'night vision' camera would help, I may well see if I can merge the guts of some LED strip lights into the original housings, I'm one of those that doesn't like the look of the 'Powerful' alternatives.

These seem cheap enough to experiment with https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BL2JLVCZ

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My 2003 Vogue didn’t have a rear vision camera until I added one (very easy to do, so easy I’m surprised it wasn’t done in the factory. The headunit is all set up to take a camera input).

However, the standard reversing lights don’t illuminate very well - at least not for the two aftermarket cameras I’ve tried. Nowhere nearly as good as the factory reversing camera on my wife’s 2009 Forester.

The small LED flood light tends to overpower the camera I have fitted. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

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p38arover



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Re the earlier post with photos, what is really needed are photos taken looking backward (from inside the vehicle with the upper tailgate open?).

However, you can't take the pix with a phone. You have to use a real camera with manual settings. Don't let the camera use automatic exposure if you want to compare the illumination. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA


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kevinp



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I had a crack in one of my original lights and these were cheaper for a pair than just one original lamp, that's why I used these.
Like has been said, reverse lamps are basically to warn others you are reversing.
Any add on reverse lights would look out of place.

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V8 Bob



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Ordered a pair of Powerful uk last night with Mrs V8’s approval.

Took next door neighbour a takeaway and backed into our drive in the dark, left foot braking to see where we were going!

Will report in their effectiveness next week. Must admit the RR camera is a lot less effective than that on her Kia but maybe that’s 9years progress. 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

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Danb_220_2019



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I'd really like to improve the reversing lights as well, but I just think these 3-ring lights cheapen the look of the car or I'd be on them in a flash.

May have to try some better bulbs or butchering a set of original lights to make my own if I can find a cheap pair to experiment with.

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Mike_A4



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kevinp wrote:
Did you prise the seal off your old lamps and put it on the new ones?


I did, I may not of thought of doing so had you not mentioned them, but since you did so it seemed sensible.

A distinct improvement over the original teeny lamps (I can see the edge of the driveway without going up and along the grass), but still a poor relation to those in the Discovery.

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V8 Bob



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Ordered a set from Powerful late on Thursday night arrived this morning by post! Fitting was straight forward took seal off old lamps and fitted to new ones. Only issue is the cost cutting by Landrover the wiring on the reversing lights is a short as they could get away with, forgot the fun I had when fitting led bulbs a few years ago. Ended up taping over the exposed connector and fitted them in.

Working fine lighting is much improved when using mirrors but they just highlight the deficiencies of the rear view camera, Mrs V8’s Kia has a much better camera .

Anyone know if an upgrade is available? Or is it the screen?

Cheers 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

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Mike_A4



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With a grey car, they don't look out of place:



And they work better than the original tiny lamps. Mike A
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1990 110 V8 GS EOD (since 2002)
1980 109 SIII RAF Crash Rescue Ambulance (since 1995)
(and fifteen other SIIIs, 90s, 110s, V6 Freelander, D1s, D2s, D3s owned and sold since 1987)

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Phoenix



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If you prefer the original look and don't mind a small amount of work, see here https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post655733.html

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p38arover



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Re: LED reversing light from Powerful UK

p38arover wrote:
I agree that they are not good for illuminating behind the car but that seems to be the norm for most vehicles. I suspect that reversing lights are merely there to warn people behind you that you are reversing.


I've noticed that many (most?) Euro vehicles have only one reversing light, usually small, on the LHS - pretty useless in a RHD country. Japanese vehicles (which are much more common, at least here in Australia) usually have two reversing lights. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

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Phoenix



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I think it goes back to the days where fog & reversing lights were add-ons, usually a pendant fixing on or below the bumper, reverse light on the left, fog on the right, they've kept it that way ever since, the old stick-in-the-mud's!

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I was always of the impression that reversing lights were to warn other road users of your intentions. I never once considered they were an aid to said manoeuvre Whistle Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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SamThomas



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Phoenix wrote:
I think it goes back to the days where fog & reversing lights were add-ons, usually a pendant fixing on or below the bumper, reverse light on the left, fog on the right, they've kept it that way ever since, the old stick-in-the-mud's!


The cynic in me gives me the opinion that it's more a case of the manufactures penny pinching.

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SamThomas



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alanm_3 wrote:
I was always of the impression that reversing lights were to warn other road users of your intentions. I never once considered they were an aid to said manoeuvre Whistle


Indeed, a similar function to indicators (good job they come on automatically or they would remain unused on BMW's & Audi's).

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