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CerebralThunder



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[Wanted] LR154747 Hybrid battery

I'm looking for a LR154747 hybrid battery for a 2015 Range Rover

On a side note, if anybody knows about repairing/reconditioning the existing hybrid battery, please contact me.

Thank you.

Post #650079 7th Dec 2022 11:05am
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expensive arnt they!

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CerebralThunder



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Ridiculously expensive., so much so I have ruled out anything new..

I'm hoing the existing can be fixed/reconditioned. The car is still under JLR extended warranty, but obvioulsy this doesn't cover an £18K battery, I mean, why would it Rolling Eyes

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£18K Ooooooooh Sniggering Sniggering Sniggering

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Kot



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CerebralThunder wrote:
Ridiculously expensive., so much so I have ruled out anything new..

I'm hoing the existing can be fixed/reconditioned. The car is still under JLR extended warranty, but obvioulsy this doesn't cover an £18K battery, I mean, why would it Rolling Eyes


Why? I thought there was a long warranty? just found this I know its a RRS 2019 but should apply to a FFRR

https://www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/docume...c/G2422819

I would repost on L405 as some people might not have For Sale wanted thread enabled. 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

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have you looked on ebay..there's a few hybrid battery's on there.. ... - .- -.




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Post #650144 8th Dec 2022 9:45am
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CerebralThunder



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Thanks for all the posts guys.

I've checked eBay thoroughly but cannot find a LR154747 battery.

The JLR warranty for these batteries: '...the manufacturer’s warranty for the battery on your vehicle is for 5 years'.

I can't understand why the battery not working makes the car a non runner. Surely the battery could be easily bypassed? Most of the time it is unavailable when first starting the car due to many things (temperature etc.), so why the issue when it's not available full time?

Thanks again for any insight.

Post #650161 8th Dec 2022 3:49pm
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This guy comes highly spoken of in Lexus circles, maybe he can help, worth a try... I emailed him a while ago and it took a week for a reply so maybe phone him... Thumbs Up

https://www.hybridbatterysolutions.co.uk/ Pete

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CerebralThunder



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Thanks Haylands, appreciated.

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Kot



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CerebralThunder wrote:
Thanks for all the posts guys.

The JLR warranty for these batteries: '...the manufacturer’s warranty for the battery on your vehicle is for 5 years'.



A PHEV is certainly off my shopping list Rolling with laughter

From
https://www.landrover.co.uk/electric/battery-technology.htmlHOW LONG DOES A PHEV BATTERY LAST?

PHEV batteries are designed to last even longer than the life of your Land Rover. Unlike the much smaller version of a Lithium-ion battery found inside your laptop or mobile phone, a Land Rover PHEV battery uses specific technologies and techniques to optimise its performance for many years and many thousands of miles.

This includes sophisticated liquid-cooling systems and a smart buffer that helps to protect the battery from the wearing effects of constant charging.


Then they say

OUR PHEV BATTERY PROMISE

For your peace of mind, we guarantee the battery in your Land Rover PHEV for 6 years or 100,000 kms (60,000 miles) – whichever comes first. And while it’s under warranty, our EV experts will fix any material defects free of charge.

In fact, the rare occurrence of a battery issue is generally caused by a single cell. The module containing this cell can easily be replaced to return the pack to its peak performance.


So their warranty is for 6 Years or 60k miles and yet they say the battery will out last the car???? So they think their car will only last 6 Years Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

They also say a cell can easily be replaced so maybe Haylands recommendation will work for you 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

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6yr/60k is quite disappointing for a premium brand Shocked

Our Mini E is 8yr/110k, and cost about the same as the RR EV battery Laughing
(Not quite)

Post #650206 8th Dec 2022 8:47pm
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A cell can (relatively) easily be replaced - in the batteries in vehicles being sold now, older vehicles are not constructed to allow easy cell replacement.
You still have to (safely) electrically disconnect the battery, drain the coolant & remove the battery, have the battery repaired, refit, refill & bleed the coolant (not as easy as you'd think), recommission the battery (i.e. convince the rest of the vehicle that the battery is now OK and the contactors can be closed), charge the battery and let the battery management system determine that the cell voltages are within acceptable limits.

I replace EV batteries two or three times a month (non-JLR), most take 4-5 hours and two men to complete, we're apparently getting the ability to replace faulting cells in the near future. It's not something that fills me with joy, it's all about reducing the workload of the battery manufacturers and putting more load on the workshops, where we will have to carry out the repairs in fixed times. I suspect there will be more 'battery management faults', which can only be resolved with a new pack rather than a pack repair. It might seem harsh, however, it's the EV trained techs that will lose out, we're given a fixed amount of time to complete a repair, if it takes longer, it affects your efficiency - and therefore your wages, if a vehicle comes back with a 'repeat fault' (in this case, same fault but different cell) then we can't claim the time for replacing the second failed cell if it's within six months of the original repair. So it makes sense (for us) to replace the assembly where any subsequent faults are a parts warranty issue - and we get paid.

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Very Interesting insight Phoenix, is it usually faulty cells that forces a replacement? 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

Post #650258 9th Dec 2022 10:41am
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CerebralThunder



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My understanding is that 99% of the time the problems with the LR154747 batteries are NOT the cells themselves, but the electronic cards within.

There are a very limited amount of people who can diagnose/repair these cards (I think there are 6 that have to be kept in the correct order even after repair) and the majority of HEVRA (Hybrid and Electric Vehicle Repair Alliance) garages send the cards off to a selected few people to fix (one being a chap in Greece who I've talked to).

With all the information I have garnered recently, I think this is my best course of action.

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