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jagracer Member Since: 14 Aug 2021 Location: Norfolk Posts: 113 |
On older cars without the battery conditioning module, 14.4 volts on charge is OK. 12.7 volts looks about right for the battery conditioned modules with the engine off. I had an Alternator regulator pack go on the Freelander 2 which read 16.5 volts across the battery terminals. |
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25th Oct 2022 4:12pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
It depends where you measure it, the alternator output is connected to the starter stud, which connects to the battery - so measuring it around the starter cable will give you the alternator output in total - up to 200A depending upon exact type of alternator fitted.
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25th Oct 2022 7:29pm |
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jagracer Member Since: 14 Aug 2021 Location: Norfolk Posts: 113 |
In the old days, one turned all the lights and accesories on, including the air con if fitted, then checked the charging voltage. Make sure the engine is running first of course. The voltage will read on a diognistics through the OBD port. Everthing on, 13.2 is good. I found a ripple current in the battery to alternator lead, hence 16.5 volts, AC is no good for ECU's. On my Discovery 2's the warning lights go mad if the cranking voltage goes below 9 volts. The Fatty stutters a bit at 11.8 cranking, so one needs a good battery reserve. I believe the battery conditioning modules only allow an 80% charge. 200amp alternators only give that after start-up, and modulate downwards as the battery charges. I must admit that 200amps into a battery is hefty charge rate, but normal on a bank of traction batteries. All the information from a battery manufacturer would be helpful fo people, don't you think? |
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26th Oct 2022 6:08pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
The bulk of the 200A output capacity of the alternator is to run the vehicle systems and accessories, not shove it all into the battery, there are various rate-limiting strategies, not least, the rpm of the alternator. It'd be very rare to see 180/200A from the alternator, and then only briefly, the control strategy and physics ensures that the output is 'just enough', but I'm sure you know all that. |
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26th Oct 2022 6:18pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
I was trying to find some public-domain stuff that wasn't too mathematical on charge rates, mainly because I'm unable to post copyrighted stuff from work, this is probably the most accurate. https://workshoppist.com/agm-battery-charging-rates/ there are related pages that may be of interest. |
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26th Oct 2022 9:15pm |
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Rog21 Member Since: 09 Nov 2018 Location: Havant Posts: 62 |
Interesting article Phoenix as you say it may be a 100A alternator but rarely outputs that and most of the charge goes to running the car not charging battery.
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27th Oct 2022 5:03pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Part of the reason for a high output alternator is that they can produce a useful amount of current at tickover - the rating is usually max output @ 1850rpm, obviously it's much lower at 750-800 but needs to be able to supply enough to keep the terminal voltage above 12.3VDC.
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27th Oct 2022 6:09pm |
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