Yes true, i have a bit of thinking to do....i do like the idea of the L322 5.0lt Autobiography Wagon 5dr Spts Auto 6sp 4x4, they have all the fruit, only think is the don't have a 8 speed tranny. 2003 RR L322 4.4 ltr Auto Zambezi silver Custom paint

i drove an early 4.4 petrol for 9 years, and loved it. but it was time to move on as it got a bit old... i always have to think about the ridiculous economy of these petrol engines, and on long drives, why im paying for power reserves i never call upon. i decided i still wanted another l322, and opted for the 4.4 diesel... and i can't believe how the drive is so refined for the comparison. the gearbox runs the engine at far lower revs, and any call on the pedal, is met with more torque that the petrol engine had... the car seems to draw forward like its on elastic, with such minimal pedal travel. the economy of night and day from the old petrol, and long cruises are not something to fear on the wallet at all. the later run out models are so well specced, and such a smart looking car. but the combo of the quiet running diesel, and 8 speed gearbox, is a dream drive. the only thing i dislike on the new car, is the silly gear change rotary knob.

Thanks for that very honest reply johnboyairey, i certainly can hear what you're saying as i have a 4.4 petrol (BMW) at the moment, and yes it is a pig on the petrol, and as fuel is going up each day it make me want one of those 4.4TD as we speak/type.

I definitely hear what you say about the stupid rotary knob that's taken over from the good old gear stick...maybe with the technology that's been put into these newer RR's we're just not accepting that we're getting older!  2003 RR L322 4.4 ltr Auto Zambezi silver Custom paint

We went from my Wife's 2003 4.4 BMW petrol engined L322 to a 2010 4.4 TdV8 Vogue. I liked it so much I got rid of my E90 BMW 320d and bought myself a 2010 4.4 TdV8 (yes, we have two, gluttons for it)!! They are simply sublime. I'm sure the supercharged cars are brilliant, but they won't do 35+ mpg on the motorway, or tow a 2.5 tonne trailer at 24mpg. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

Sounds like you need to have a drive of each somewhere.

Don’t forget you have steering wheel paddles, so you won’t have to use the rotary gear knob that much.

I got used to that much quicker than I did the little lever for the hand brake. Though it’d be the other way round 🤣.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

So the steering wheel paddles are stock on an '12?
Yeah you're rite i do need to drive the 5.0 and the 4.4lt....only thing is being an old Mustang owner i'd fall in love with the 5.0lt  2003 RR L322 4.4 ltr Auto Zambezi silver Custom paint

The paddles are standard on both I believe. Def are on the 4.4. The 5.0 has more power, but the 4.4 has more torque….

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

The UK brochures and price lists with options are in the Wiki mate. Top right….. might give you an idea…

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

I've occasionally used the wrong paddle while the steering wheel is turned but after 7 years I've nearly taught myself not to use the paddles on tight corners.

mjdronfield wrote:

Sounds like you need to have a drive of each somewhere.

Don’t forget you have steering wheel paddles, so you won’t have to use the rotary gear knob that much.

I got used to that much quicker than I did the little lever for the hand brake. Though it’d be the other way round 🤣.

Agree with Garry on the rotary knob, you’ll get used to it and once you do they are very easy to use. Took me a while to take to mine but I like it now

I love the rotary gear knob, stylish, uncluttered, perfect! Sorry  2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

for the rotary control from me. Paddles are great especially as the ZF8 changes are near instant. Had these on my Audi with the ZF6 and there was always a delay which made them pretty pointless IME. Never had an issue with getting them confused in a tight turn as was taught a long time ago to only change gears in a straight line and before or after a bend. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

I’m another fan of the rotary control. It makes the cabin look so much cleaner and modern. As for the paddles, I rarely use them, typically only doing so when going down a steep hill and wanting more engine braking.

Mine engine brakes fine going down hill but I regularly use them going up hill where it revs too high. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)