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kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 386

2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

How could the garage have messed this repair up?

Vehicle failed mot on the following:
Repair immediately (major defects):
Offside Rear Suspension arm ball joint excessively worn upper balljoint/bush (5.3.4 (a) (i))

Bit surprised as it's only done 2k miles since the last test with no advisory then and it's had a service in between. Anyway, against my better judgement I got them to fix it (non specialist).

Got it back and now the steering wheel is offset although it didn't seem to pull. Thought I'd get them to look at it again when we got back from holiday. Away now on holiday and it's been handling a bit weirdly and getting worse and occasionally feels like something is loose underneath.

I'm not sure which joint this is, but anyone got any thoughts before I take it back to them? 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

18th Aug 2022 9:16pm

DrRob

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
Posts: 4303

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Personally, I would not take it back to them as they could make things even worse. Get it to Glenrands. Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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19th Aug 2022 6:35am

dingg1

Member Since: 29 Jun 2013
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 1345

2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

Whatever they've done on the rear will not have changed the steering geometry, something is awry.....

19th Aug 2022 7:14am

Highroller

Member Since: 18 Jul 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 565

2005 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Java Black

Something doesn't sound right here. No advisory on last MOT, What service was done since then & is it the same garage replacing the joint as carried out the MOT?.

I would want to know exactly what they have done & possible let a good Indy look at it from now on.

19th Aug 2022 7:34am

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 386

dingg1 wrote:
Whatever they've done on the rear will not have changed the steering geometry, something is awry.....

This is exactly what I thought. It was the same garage that did the test but they do have an excellent reputation locally. I'm just wondering what they could have done wrong due to lack of experience perhaps.

Is this one of those joints that needs to be tightened with weight on the wheels? 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

19th Aug 2022 8:07am

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 386

Highroller wrote:
Something doesn't sound right here. No advisory on last MOT, What service was done since then & is it the same garage replacing the joint as carried out the MOT?.

I would want to know exactly what they have done & possible let a good Indy look at it from now on.

I'm struggling to find a good indy locally. My usual is just too expensive now and cooked up the last job they did on it. 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

19th Aug 2022 8:09am

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 386

Click image to enlarge

This is the joint they've replaced. 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

Last edited by kooky_guy on 19th Aug 2022 10:57am. Edited 1 time in total

19th Aug 2022 8:49am

Weegie

Member Since: 09 Jun 2014
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 3236

2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Strange that the steering wheel is out of alignment if they have only been working on the rear. A problem at the rear can affect steering and handling.

You need to find out from them exactly what was done. John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

19th Aug 2022 9:04am

Highroller

Member Since: 18 Jul 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 565

When you say that the steering wheel is out of alignment. I take it that you mean you're having more steering wheel input to maintain the correct steering angle.

As Weegie has mentioned. An issue with the rear geometry could effect this.

Let us know what they find or say, once you have taken it back to them.

19th Aug 2022 9:16am

JavaBlack

Member Since: 07 Sep 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 67

2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

SC486 adjusts the rear toe.

19th Aug 2022 10:02am

DrRob

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
Posts: 4303

kooky_guy wrote:
Highroller wrote:
Something doesn't sound right here. No advisory on last MOT, What service was done since then & is it the same garage replacing the joint as carried out the MOT?.

I would want to know exactly what they have done & possible let a good Indy look at it from now on.

I'm struggling to find a good indy locally. My usual is just too expensive now and cooked up the last job they did on it.

My recommendation on local specialist given in previous post. Plus site sponsor and loan cars. I can only advise based on my onw personal experiences. I won't go anywhere else now and I've tried a few round this neck of the woods.... Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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19th Aug 2022 10:14am

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 386

Not sure why my photo didn't seem to show. Can anyone else see it?

As far as the steering wheel goes, when driving straight, the wheel is now at about 10 past 8. Its not pulling, its just not straight any more.

I'd love to take it to your specialist DrRob as they sound great but it's too far for me really. Anyone used Bagshot LDR? 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

19th Aug 2022 10:55am

Weegie

Member Since: 09 Jun 2014
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 3236

Can you get full lock left and right? John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

19th Aug 2022 10:57am

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 386

Yes, steering feels fine apart from a strange feeling from the rear. I thought I was imagining it but it's quite noticeable on these twisty country lanes. 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

19th Aug 2022 11:04am

Highroller

Member Since: 18 Jul 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 565

Photo clearly shows the new offset bolt replaced.
This controls the Rear wheel camber & as previously mentioned requires wheel alignment once replaced.

Once the geometry has been setup correctly it should drive much better

19th Aug 2022 11:30am

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