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umitbat



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Oops thread moved to autobahn:)
I always use cruise control on the legal speed.
But I can get bored and do things if the drive is too long.
The comfort and ease of ffrr is so suited to cruising.
I don’t move if I have cars to pass and if I am on the legal maximum speed.
If no cars ahead I am mostly in the middle. 2010 3.6tdv8 180k km.
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Sold 03 td6 260k

Post #615548 9th Dec 2021 7:29pm
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Slow progress



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One issue I’m seeing on the M1 is that people are using lanes 3 and 4 and not moving over as they’ve twigged there are camera covering lanes 1 and 2. Which is a little odd when lanes 1 and 2 are actually clear!?!

Post #615554 9th Dec 2021 7:47pm
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Barmybrummie



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Slow progress I know exactly what you mean. They are the bane of my life and the UK is the worst for middle lane dawdlers. I drive all over Europe for a living and you hardly see it in the likes of Holland, Germany France etc etc. Very frustrating when you're driving a truck and have no other option but to undertake. Seems to me it's got far worse ever since they have introduced these stupid smart motorways, just gives them an extra lane to hog to sit and do 50mph. They are more dangerous than those who speed.

Post #615652 10th Dec 2021 11:34am
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kevinp



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You do a great job Barmybrummie and much appreciated in these awful times.
I had a dawdler in the outside lane of a dual carriageway the other day. The thing is they were coming towards me!!!

Post #615669 10th Dec 2021 1:09pm
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MartinD



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I don't think the problem here is smart motorways.

It's the idiots that don't know how to use them or, indeed, what any of the highway code means.

It's really simple - drive on the left, in the left hand lane, unless you're overtaking. It's really not difficult. 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE - 'Black Betty'
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Post #615672 10th Dec 2021 1:16pm
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Slow progress



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The issue is partly smart motorways. The other part is people not following the rules of the road.

The sections where the cameras are in the inside 2 lanes people avoid using. Where the camera are across all lanes you get people accelerating between gantries then breaking back to the speed limit. The design of smart motorways hasn’t taken into account human behaviour and attitudes, they need to be looked at again to understand the implications of peoples adjusted driving habits.

Post #615680 10th Dec 2021 1:59pm
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MartinD



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Therein lies part of the problem.

The cameras on those gantries only operate when a limit has been set on the gantry signs. At other times, they're inoperative.

Again, not really the fault of smart motorways, it's morons behind the wheel. 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE - 'Black Betty'
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Post #615682 10th Dec 2021 2:01pm
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SamThomas



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Slow progress wrote:

The sections where the cameras are in the inside 2 lanes people avoid using.


The camera's on side of the gantries appear to only cover lanes 1 & 2.
Many a time, in the early hours driving an HGV at 56 in lane 1 I've seen cars ahead of me (& nothing at all in lanes 1 & 2) flashed by the cameras.

They are probably not too good at catching people in lanes 3 & 4 if there is traffic in lanes 1 & 2.

Another example of misunderstanding, like the people who don't know how average speed cameras operate.

Post #615719 10th Dec 2021 4:49pm
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Barmybrummie



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Hey Kevin thanks, but my work is more specialised. I deliver aircraft, marine and cruise liner parts. I only keep the other forms of transport moving, so if ever you've been on a flight and had a bad landing then I'm sent out with new landing legs lol. Nothing more scary than an on coming car heading towards you, I bet that was scary. I should know, it happened to me in France 12 years ago, a French dude high on drugs smashed head on into me overtaking another car on a blind bend. And key me tell you this, it's nothing like what you see in the films, you life flashing before you, far from it. You just pull a stupid face and think Censored this is going to hurt Laughing

Post #615783 10th Dec 2021 11:26pm
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bigbo



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Hi guys. in light of a new thread about smart motorways can we get back to the op's original question....

I drive my car depending on my mood, sometimes I love to enjoy the performance but most of the time I love to just waft!

I drive at the speed limit, where appropriate, and dont worry about my fuel consumption as my car is a toy, a big toy but just a toy.
Having said that putting it into sport mode and flooring it brings a big grin to my face and surprises many passengers and other road users Rolling with laughter Range Rover 4.2 Supercharged 2006
Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

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Post #615786 11th Dec 2021 12:08am
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SamThomas



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i too often drive to my mood & the time available.

Sometimes, I'm content to "waft" or amble along, making sure I don't get in other peoples way.

Other times, i driver with enthusiasm & purpose.

However, with the attitudes of some of the people on here I'm not surprised that many non-RR drivers consider us arrogant.

Post #615851 11th Dec 2021 12:49pm
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SamThomas



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On an aside if you want to see some truly idiot/terminally stupid/arrogant driving spend a shift with me in my Gritter Truck (yes, they do exist).

Yay, roll on some snow so I can put the plough on !

Post #615853 11th Dec 2021 12:51pm
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Barmybrummie



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Oh dear you've started something now umitbat lol. In what started out as a genuine and rather good topic I thought, has now turned into a debate about HOW you should drive and how you MUST obey the law when driving. Laughing

Post #615911 11th Dec 2021 9:40pm
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Slow progress



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Do you find that your driving style is sometimes influenced by the music you’re listening to?

Post #615943 12th Dec 2021 8:50am
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SamThomas



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"Do you find that your driving style is sometimes influenced by the music you’re listening to?".

Yes !

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