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northernmonkeyjones Member Since: 24 Mar 2012 Location: derby Posts: 8622 |
If you can find a nice 90-100k 4.4, I’d take that any day over a 40,000 mile 3.6.
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30th Aug 2021 9:31am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3255 |
Ideally I’d prefer a 4.4 for broadly the reasons you outlined but as there is very little way of knowing what kind of miles ( short urban trips or long M- way cruising) a car has done I’d take the punt on the lower mile option esp if it’s not got a DPF. Not terribly convinced cars don’t benefit from being sat about and yet to find a mechanical system that wears less with more use. As mentioned in another thread I’m wary of DPF equipped cars used predominantly in urban environments for short trips. There’s a couple nr me I’m just not even considering for this very reason - well outside urban areas will be my main search areas. |
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30th Aug 2021 11:16am |
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mjdronfield Member Since: 04 Nov 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 7815 |
4.4 every day of the week. Even if you have a DPF issues, its way less expensive than the turbos going on a 3.6 and being fired into the engine…..
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30th Aug 2021 12:23pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3255 |
All things being equal I'd certainly have a 4.4 over a 3.6 but things are not equal as 4.4's have a substantial price premium over a 3.6 at similar mileages hence the question based on different mileages. I'd expect the chance of engine wrecking turbo failure to be low on a low mileage 3.6 and AFAIK the turbo's fail due to ingesting broken EGR's on high mileage units rather than just self destructing of their own accord but if I'm mistaken and it's a similar not so random event like the V6 crank failure I'll happily stay clear as I am from D4's and RR sports. I've driven a 4.4 and it wasn't love at first sight. I'm not buying an L322 for speed, nimble handling and B road thrills though so not sure I'd feel I was missing something with a 3.6 in terms of performance in the same way that I'm taking a big hit in that department letting my A6 Allroad 3.0TDI go |
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30th Aug 2021 12:57pm |
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mjdronfield Member Since: 04 Nov 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 7815 |
I’d still take a higher mileage 4.4 over a 3.6, but I take your points.
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30th Aug 2021 1:02pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3255 |
Plan B was to get a much cheaper L322 and not trade in my Audi at all but owning 2 cars seems mad - but so does owning any L322 |
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30th Aug 2021 1:26pm |
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cass Member Since: 12 Oct 2011 Location: northumberland Posts: 745 |
I ran a 3.6 & 4.4 together for a couple of years and while I agree that the 4.4 is a much better car in many ways on paper I found the everyday drive almost identical. I never once felt like I was missing anything when I was in the 3.6. A 6 or 8 speed gearbox? does it matter when both are so good that you can't feel the changes and rarely know what gear you're in?
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30th Aug 2021 3:04pm |
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alanm_3 Member Since: 19 Feb 2011 Location: my House, unless I’m not at home, in which case I’m somewhere else. Posts: 6732 |
I don’t believe the TDV8 turbo failures are mileage dependant, so using that as a barometer to further failures could lead to a false sense of security.
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30th Aug 2021 6:00pm |
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Chapeau! Velo Member Since: 22 Jul 2019 Location: Down South Posts: 115 |
My 2ps worth is that the 4.4 is the best of the L322 range, as it should be being the last incarnation, but I struggle with the price differential between the 3.6 & 4.4 at the moment. Prices of both are rising but I don’t think a 4.4 is twice the car noting that some asking prices are twice as much for a similar mileage machines.
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30th Aug 2021 6:09pm |
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jackie-o Member Since: 15 Jun 2018 Location: Sweden Posts: 226 |
I had the exact same discussion with myself 2 years ago....ended up buying a 4.4.
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30th Aug 2021 7:07pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3255 |
Thanks for all the comments. There are 3 potential low mile 3.6’s on Autotrader all just under £17k 2 of them facelift so same as the 4.4 apart from engine and gearbox. Similar mileage for a 4.4 is £5-7k more. Looking at MOT records on 4.4’s at around 100k miles (of which there are quite a few) and £17k and I’m seeing a lot of advisories on leaking and weak shock absorbers which to be honest I would expect at this mileage. |
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31st Aug 2021 6:40am |
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DrRob Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire Posts: 4306 |
4.4 oil coolers leak. Most around 80K miles. I'd be looking for evidence for a new one fitted at some point.
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31st Aug 2021 7:19am |
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alanm_3 Member Since: 19 Feb 2011 Location: my House, unless I’m not at home, in which case I’m somewhere else. Posts: 6732 |
And don’t forget that around MY10, TDV8s had poorer brakes fitted. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
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31st Aug 2021 7:45am |
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mjdronfield Member Since: 04 Nov 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 7815 |
I definitely think a facelifted 3.6 with TFT screen, smaller brakes and possibly DPF would not be the way to go. Would be at a premium price compared to other 3.6s…. You need a 4.4 if it’s a facelift that catches your eye.
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31st Aug 2021 8:08am |
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