Hi Team

Moving to a new home and it has a monitored alarm.

I've not opted not to continue the contract because I don't want to pay a monthly for 'monitoring', can you get alarms that notify your phone?

I do want to add a full IP CCTV system but not sure if that can be part of an integral alarm system

Presumably once I work out what system to go for, I can change the main box to something else whilst keeping all the sensors?

Don't know too much about what's around these days, be great to hear any thoughts recommendations etc

TIA ! Cheers, Greg
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Have a look at the Eufy range. Fully integrated and no subscription fees

Rip it all out, and install a ring alarm. Works nicely together with the doorbell, floodlights, sensors, sirens, and naturally notifications to your phone. Also has guest access etc. A very good system. Only thing some people may have against it is that it is owned by Amazon.

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We had the same dilemma and having done a ton of research landed on a Texecom solution and it has been rock solid! They also have great support.

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Thanks a lot for the replies so far.
Ring looks good. Eufy too.

Will check out Pyronix and Texecom too

Seems integrated alarms + cctv system would be nice. Integrated smoke + co2 detection would be nice too.

Not sure that's all possible atm...

I've been looking at cameras and worked out PoE seems best option. Not too keen on wireless generally.

Tons of research needed!

Any more tips greatly appreciated Cheers, Greg
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Ring utilises/support the zwave protocol for automation integration. Still have to try a zwave co2/heat detector into the system. The ones I had from visonic powermaster aren’t compatible.

I hear what you say about POE IP cameras. I actually had those from avigilon. But I’ve never come across a system where they can properly integrate with the alarm side of things. I initially stepped aside from them with the netatmo presence which was rock solid and really good app support and Apple HomeKit. But again no alarm integration.

So when ring started doing alarms I tried their floodlight cams as well. I like that some of their cameras come with build in floodlights and also build in sirens. And it all works nicely together in one app.

But yes it’s wireless, I don’t have an issue with that these days. It’s good and secure.

Depending on the alarm system, you should be able to get an output to trigger a dialler. The dialler will call a number of preset numbers in turn and deliver a voice message. You can get GSM diallers or wired phone line diallers, the GSM ones are more secure in case the phone line is cut. BMW i3 Electric Car
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My old alarm had one of these diallers. I found them always a bit . So yes you can hear the alarm going off, but you can't see why. So you also don't know what number to press to disable for a false alarm (if you can remember the numeric PSTN code) or do what...

I think they had its use when there were no smart phones, but thinks can be so much better nowadays with good phone apps and integration.

Texecom Premier elite system is a good way to go.

I’ve got that in my place with a smart com add on and app. You can set it and cancel it from your phone and it send you a notification of when it’s triggered. It also tells you which zone has been triggered. I also have the ring alarm in my bottom garage and ring doorbell cameras on the door and gate.

All Of it works as described. If you have pre existing wiring then retrofitting a more modern wired alarm to the house is child’s play. The smart com box is Wi-fi enabled so connects to your router for access or can be wired if wanted, and is powered from the main panel, the keypads will wire to the existing keypad point and if you buy the better keypad it comes with a prox sensor which means you can set with a key fob dongle.

It’s a proper system, and requires someone who is knowledgable on the system to set it up as there are features which will not be required and require programming out, and other which need enabling. It’s doable if you want to read the very thick manual, but it’s takes a bit of head

There is no real down side to a full ring system, but being wireless it’s basically all battery powered, so you do have to occasionally charge the keypad, and swap out the batteries in the sensors, the doorbell cameras are great though and if you pick the wired pro version it has better range and doesn’t need batteries changing. A cheap bell transformer will allow it to be permanently wired into the power so no charging required....

As for cameras the ring ones are Ok, but we are stretching them to their limits. If you want coverage over a wide area then their Wi-fi will require boosting. Our main camera system in the house is a stand alone system, off Amazon however if you want a better one then Hik-visions night detection is much better. All my cameras are POe and wired back to the PVR. There are cameras which will connect to the Texecom alarm but didn’t see the point, the system I’ve got has an app with remote access so except for combining the 2 systems into 1 app there was no functional up side in combining it with the alarm. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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The benefits of combining comes with further automation, and overall integration. For example my cameras are also linked to my home smart lighting based around Philips hue. All helps towards prevention...

Totally agree on wireless needing good coverage, but doesn't everyone have a mesh network these day anyway

Yes, and in order to get the camera on the bottom gate I had to wire an ethernet to a mesh pod in the garage so it would cover that doorbell as it’s about 100m from the house.

Works though.

In terms of overall integration, I agree that combining the systems can add some functionality in terms of switching on lighting etc we also have a whole house Hue system and it is set to play around with the lights while we are away, I haven’t found a way to make the ring alarm or the Texecom talk to the hue system yet. But there are ways to get the Texecom system to switch on lights if you have their ricochet plugs.

IFTTT does off some hope but I haven’t really had a good play with it yet. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Hi I have been installing alarms since 1983 and would be happy to share my knowledge

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Northernmonkeys very true and the one you mentioned does I think have some control ports and you could integrate it that way. But as you mentioned earlier one may need some more professional help with that. Although in my experience I found even Nicos gold installers not that great with modern technology and integrations beyond the security system. I found many I spoke to still in the mindset that security needs to be separate.

Whilst I don’t disagree with that when you say manage a list x facility with a security team. but at home it’s really doesn’t have be like that. Nothing wrong with a modern decent two way wireless system that can be integrated with other features.

Ps. Philips hue is great isn’t it

Have a look at Eaton I-ON range which can be hooked up to router wireless or hard wired and also they are hybrid