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tpeat12

Member Since: 18 May 2020
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 69

That was my thought as well Jon.

18th Jan 2021 7:30pm

Alistair

Member Since: 11 Feb 2011
Location: Peterborough / Bordeaux / Andorra
Posts: 7923

2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

Life is full of strange people.

There are even those who recount their experiences onto internet forums......

Just walk away - there are plenty more

18th Jan 2021 8:52pm

Bluespanner

Member Since: 03 Jan 2021
Location: Burton up on Trent
Posts: 43

2012 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

I agree with the general sentiment. It would have taken the man less time to answer your questions than it took to write what he did! And the point about how he would react to after sales issues is very valid.

18th Jan 2021 9:06pm

dingg1

Member Since: 29 Jun 2013
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 1340

2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

There would be no action after sales issues

Its a second hand car YOU make tgat decision whether you want to buy or not.

After monies have changed hands ANY issues are yours

Caveat emptor

18th Jan 2021 10:03pm

Hermes

Member Since: 06 Nov 2020
Location: Oop north
Posts: 108

2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

Dinng,

Not entirely true: even a private sale carries some rights which are protected legally. It has to be yours to sell; you are not allowed to misrepresent etc.
Granted the rights are fewer and any recourse more difficult, but my point is that there are certain legal thresholds even a private seller must meet. This is strengthened when buying from a retailer, especially the quality and condition aspects... or any faults which may have been pre-existing, before the sale (unless they were disclosed and/or the purchaser waived rights, as in a so-called ‘trade sale’).

Also, rights aside, some sellers make you think there is more likelihood an issue will occur, whether they will deal with it nicely or not.

Cheers

18th Jan 2021 11:31pm

speedymarktd6

Member Since: 20 Nov 2008
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 727

2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

Any link to the advert as I might have looked at it, I’ve looked at a lot over 6 months

When I’ve sold a car I’ve not had any issues with giving extra details about a car
I like to think I’m probably a bit too honest onto no6 Range Rover

Everyone needs a hobby

23rd Jan 2021 5:01pm

tpeat12

Member Since: 18 May 2020
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 69

I don't want to put a direct link to the advert, but it's a 2010 car on for £8500.

I've not heard anything back from the seller since my last message but think i'm going to try and stretch to a 4.4 instead of the 3.6.

23rd Jan 2021 5:23pm

Anvil

Member Since: 18 Jan 2019
Location: Dorset
Posts: 140

Hermes wrote:
Dinng,

Not entirely true: even a private sale carries some rights which are protected legally. It has to be yours to sell; you are not allowed to misrepresent etc.
Granted the rights are fewer and any recourse more difficult, but my point is that there are certain legal thresholds even a private seller must meet. This is strengthened when buying from a retailer, especially the quality and condition aspects... or any faults which may have been pre-existing, before the sale (unless they were disclosed and/or the purchaser waived rights, as in a so-called ‘trade sale’).

Also, rights aside, some sellers make you think there is more likelihood an issue will occur, whether they will deal with it nicely or not.

Cheers

Whenever I've sold any vehicle, I've always been very clear that it comes with no warranty or guarantees. But I've always been at great pains to point out any issues I know about -even when doing part ex with a dealer. I try to be as honest as possible. I also mark the receipts with "sold as seen, tried, and tested." I thought that placed the responsibility on the purchaser to fully test before handing over the cash and exempted you from any comeback? Even the very best vehicle could theoretically chew its cambelt 2 feet off your drive? Does anyone know if there's any truth in the sold as seen statement? FFRR 4.2SC/KTM 990SMT Current and cherished.
Honda Accord 2.4 Vtec touring. (Yeah, I know, think: Kids)
Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution Nut-wagon. and a Buell XB12R
TVR Griffith 5.0 (backed up with Vauxhall Carlton road barge for the weekly shop.)
Honda Integra Type R DC2 Possibly the best drivers car. Ever.
Mitshibishi FTO GPX MIVEC.
Honda CRX Vtec Mk2 -NO, Not the del sol!!!
Volkswagen Scirocco GT
Mini 1275GT
MG Midget (Heavily modified)
I'm going to stop now.....

28th Jan 2021 10:41am

dennij

Member Since: 23 Feb 2019
Location: Up North
Posts: 450

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Buckingham Blue

This is according to the AA when buying privately

The only legal terms that cover a private sale contract are:

The seller must have the right to sell the car.
The vehicle should match the description given by the seller.
The car must be roadworthy – it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car and an MOT certificate from a test several months ago is no guarantee that the car is roadworthy today. 2011 TDV8 Vogue SE

28th Jan 2021 10:47am

Hermes

Member Since: 06 Nov 2020
Location: Oop north
Posts: 108

I generally agree. The “sold as seen...’ I think is more aimed at condition and any unspoken implications. It cannot cover things that would be illegal to do/not do, as no contract can cover things that are not legal. So if you say it’s a 2010 vehicle but it’s actually a 2007, you cannot simply disclaim this by an agreement. You would need to explicitly rescind the statement.

At least I think so...

28th Jan 2021 10:54am

Jayk69

Member Since: 08 Feb 2018
Location: Daventry
Posts: 601

2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

when ever i sell on ebay i always go to great lengths in the description. if it failed an MOT or had advisories on it i state if they were repaired or not and make sure i have invoices for parts & labour (If i did not do it myself)
If i am buying from Ebay and got a response to my questions like that i would just walk away they are more than likely trying to hide something. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

28th Jan 2021 10:56am

Hermes

Member Since: 06 Nov 2020
Location: Oop north
Posts: 108

Jayk,

I’m the same... they’re either hiding something, or not likely the kind of person to offer goodwill afterwards, if anything goes wrong

28th Jan 2021 11:03am

HS66

Member Since: 22 Jun 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 73

2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Personally I’d not want to buy that, who knows what else could be wrong with it, plenty of others out there.

30th Jan 2021 9:20am

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