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mjdronfield Member Since: 04 Nov 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 7805 |
Previous cars : 2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6 1999 Discovery Td5 ES 1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed 1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue 1992 BMW M5 3.8 1988 BMW 735i SE 1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i 1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport |
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27th Jan 2021 6:19pm |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16294 |
They do drive lush...
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28th Jan 2021 12:51am |
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TJRL Member Since: 07 Sep 2019 Location: Reading Posts: 198 |
They do indeed drive well - very well off road.
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28th Jan 2021 7:00am |
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KurtVerbose Member Since: 08 Aug 2010 Location: Les Arses Posts: 5848 |
With a hammer. If there had been a new defender every 8 years since the first came out we'd have pretty much the same car. Because there was a 70 year wait for a new one people say it's lost its DNA. |
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28th Jan 2021 7:12am |
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Hermes Member Since: 06 Nov 2020 Location: Oop north Posts: 108 |
I quite like it...
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28th Jan 2021 8:31am |
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Red Merle Member Since: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2158 |
Firstly, no one will ever please them and secondly, it would be pretty much the same for anyone trying to fit the Transit engine in the Puma Defender 🙄 |
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28th Jan 2021 9:04am |
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CongoBoy Member Since: 11 Sep 2020 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 126 |
I feel similarly. To me, this should have been branded as the next Discovery, not as a Defender. |
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28th Jan 2021 9:12am |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16294 |
Completely agree, but I said that way before it was released for sale! 👍
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28th Jan 2021 9:22am |
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Red Merle Member Since: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2158 |
Have you, firstly, owned a Discovery 3 or 4 and secondly, been in a new Defender? |
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28th Jan 2021 9:47am |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16294 |
I can answer that Red... Yes, Yes & Yes... And i completely agree it should have been branded the D5... As in real terms, its just like a D4 rework! |
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28th Jan 2021 10:23am |
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JCW Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 869 |
Just symptomatic of the general homogenisation of LR model branding across its entire range, not unintentionally. But what’s in a name, I just take each for what they are |
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28th Jan 2021 10:40am |
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Red Merle Member Since: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2158 |
I knew that you would have done 👍 which is why I was especially asking CB. My very low opinion of the current D5 is pretty well known 🙄 and I would have loved this to be the real thing but, beyond the boxy shape and external dimensions, this is very different from the D4 inside, the D4 still being a luxury car, but more spacious and practical than the Fatty. As soon as I got inside, this screamed Defender at me; from the flat front floor to the two front seats being pushed to the edges to allow for a third front perch. Give it a bigger boot and the option of a split tailgate (and even better, build it in Solihull) and I’d have one. But, to many who might have looked at a D4 in place of say, a Mercedes estate, the Defender is going to be too much of a step. |
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28th Jan 2021 10:55am |
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Philip Member Since: 05 Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2567 |
Exactly that. |
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28th Jan 2021 2:40pm |
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TJRL Member Since: 07 Sep 2019 Location: Reading Posts: 198 |
Really?? I seem to recall the that the original Land Rover (later renamed as "Series 1") has been updated many, many time over the years. As a rough guide (please don't flame me if a bit inaccurate!):- 1948 - Rover cars produced a new model of car - A Land Rover 1958 - Rover cars produced an updated version - The SII Land Rover 1961 - Rover cars produce an updated version - The SIIa Land Rover 1972 - British Leyland Cars produce an updated version - The SIII Land Rover 1984 - British Leyland Cars produce an updated version - The 90 and 110 Land Rovers 1990 - The Land Rover 90 and Land Rover 110 - Replaced by Defender 90 / 110 respectively 1996 - Land Rover produce an updated version - Wolf Defender So very nearly "a new Defender every 8 years" or so. All with very similar "DNA" so much so that even JLR talk about a 1948 Land Rover as being a Defender when of course it was not. It is easy to compare a 2016 Defender to a 1948 Series 1 Land Rover and see the common DNA. But in no way shape or form can a 2020 "Defender" (of should that be Pretender?) be compared with a 2016 Defender. There just is not any common DNA at all. 2010 Range Rover TDV8 Baltic Blue Autobiography (2011 MY) - SOLD 1960 Land Rover SII SWB SW 2020 BMW R1250 RT LE 2021 Triton ST-125 (Monkey Bike) |
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28th Jan 2021 4:00pm |
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