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Bill



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Sit on Grass cutters

I’m thinking about a new sit on lawnmower

I currently have an Iseki 21HP with a hi lift tip, diesel

I will probably buy a the same again , but before I do so I wondered if anyone had thoughts/ recommendations as they are eye watering expensive & there may be something else that’s worth considering.

My limited thoughts ; Petrol never starts, Iseki don’t clog (very often,) . 600L collector. Go on and on and on. Tuff . Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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Dolphinboy



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Get a robomower- I did and it’s perfect. Does its thing in peace and solitude. And lawn looks good every day, not just the few days after I’ve cut it.

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northernmonkeyjones



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I’ve got an old mountfield front deck mower. It’s old but works brilliantly, much much more manoeuvrable than a tractor.

The equivalent as they’ve stopped making it is a Stiga Park. I’ve got a 105mm cut on it with a mulching deck so it doesn’t need to pick up, just finely chops the grass. If you cut your grass regularly, then mulching is great, you can’t see the clippings on the lawn they just vanish.

Honestly if you haven’t tried a centre pivot zero turn mower then give one a go. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Clabs



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Bill

Anything with a high lift tip is in commercial territory and going to be expensive. I hear great things about the Iseki's and it sounds like yours has given Stirling service. I went with Kubota because I was offered a great deal on an ex demo as my first machine and as that was trouble free, have stuck with them ever since (G21, G23). My use is heavy domestic (couple of acres). They cut in all conditions, rarely block, leave a lovely finish and above all, just work.

I agree that when you buy your first one, it does seem a bit crazy to spend that much on a lawnmower but they do tend to hold their values really well which makes it a bit easier when it comes time to update.

Sure, there are plenty of other cheaper alternatives and I seem to have tried them all but they won't cut/collect when it's wet, they have tiny collection boxes and are constantly needing bits replacing.

Good luck.

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bigbo



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You don't say how big an area you need to cut...

I have nearly an acre of field plus front and rear gardens of fine lawn, and I use a 12.5 hp Husqvarna, made by American Yard Products, that has been ultra reliable (over about 25 years), it cuts very rough ground and cuts fine lawn (not as quite good as my cylinder mower)
I use it to vacuum the drive of leaves as well as towing a trailer instead of using a wheelbarrow

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cass



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John Deere might be worth a look the whole range is quite reasonably priced. I've had mine 3 years now and it's never missed a beat, massive improvement from all of the previous ones I've had.
Most models have mulching blades available for a quick change without changing the whole deck.

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Weegie



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Agree about John Deere but another marque is Gianni Ferrari. The 200Tg is diesel and would fit the bill. John
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MPx



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Another major consideration is whether you have slopes or flat land. If flat then anything will work and you will be able to get a better finish with some finer rotaries or even cylinder gang. I used to have a zero turn Kubota with a 4ft deck and collector which was great for the lawns, around flower beds etc but rubbish on slopes. And we have lots of slopes so it gets more tricky - eg the Stiga Park Pro we trialed despite being 4WD was unstable on turns at the bottom and struggled for traction up hill, whereas it was really good on the flat. For the last decade we've had an Aebi Terracut TC7 with 4ft triple rotary for the bits closer to the house - and that can be used up to about 40 degrees. I used to have a Kubota tractor with 6ft Muthing flail for the bigger bits further way from the house but that got written off so I replaced it with a BCS (same flail). BCS, Ferrari and Pasquali are all the same "alpine" tractors, all made in the same factory just depends what colour you like - BCS/Blue, Ferrari/Green, Pasquali/Yellow. They are very good on slopes if not quite as good as the Aebi and you can get normal steer or articulated if you need tighter turns - Normal steer better on slopes. While the Kubota was fantastic as a tractor, the BCS is comparatively "agricultural" and the 56hp diesel puts out a lot of black smog - but it is much more stable on slopes. They're all daft money though - just looking at what you actually get compared to a car etc. Mike - MPx

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Johnh



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It depends on size to mow, finish required and how many trees, bushes, etc get in the way. I have a simplicity regent 40" cut, which can collect, not collect or mulch.

Had it 12 years, giving the deck an overall this year.

If purchasing now I would look at a zero turn, since the tree count has gone up

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We bought a John Deere 455 with a 54” deck and a 346T collector on the back of it in 2004. Other then changing the collector for an MCS560 last year, we’ve not had to do anything other then routing servicing. It’s been a fantastic machine and I’d have another in a heartbeat if anything ever happened to this one.

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Bill



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Thanks everyone

Reworded my reply which was incoherent being posted late at night.


My problem starts with 10 acres of wood Implanted 15 years ago , which is getting overgrown in parts . I use my grass cutter, an Iseki which has a long back end. Pretty good at it, except the back end swings out bashes a tree and will eventually do serious damage to the machine.


So my idea was to take the back end off, and just use the cutting part to deal with the wood. This would leave me in need of a grass cutter for about 5 acres of grass I cut, hence my question.


As a replacement Iseki grass cutter is £15-19k , I changed tack and started to think about a sit on brush cutter . The Iseki is to small

Iseki suggested buying a slightly larger tractor unit. Chop in my new holland 75 super steer , which is now to big. Reluctant to do loose the new holland, but not out of the question

During the search I came across the robot grass cutter, mega bucks, but just an interesting machine.

https://www.abreyagricultural.com/ See robotics section


Thanks again Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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