Mikey wrote:

Was offered a 2011 4.4 TDV8 with 92k miles last week, for £9k

I'm trying to find a reason not to buy it

on the other hand, petrol L322's registered before 23rd March 2006 seem to be holding values now for the last few years

you can buy nice Vogue BMW 4.4 petrol engines for under 5 grand, some of these have FSH, some also have expensive LPG conversions, so they are pretty amazing value for money

the bonus for cars registered before 23rd March 2006, is they are classified as Car Tax Band K, so only £315 for 12 months
they are petrol, so ULEZ is not an issue, they are not too expensive to insure, because they are less than 5k in value

the price for Autogas LPG at my local Morrisons is only 60p a litre
so cheapish to run as well, using LPG costs me approx 17p a mile, but this is mostly motorway miles on cruise control !

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they are petrol, so ULEZ is not an issue

when I went online to check my Reg Number

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle-35896

it looks like my 2004 meets the emission standards for ULEZ so I don't have to pay this charge when driving within the zone

I looked at my V5C document, section V - Exhaust Emissions
V.1 CO 1.972
V.2 HC 0.235
V.3 NOx 0.052


the Euro 4 emissions standards (petrol) are :
CO: 1.0g/km
THC: 0.10g/km
NOx: 0.08g/km

the TfL website only looks for the NOx figure to be below 0.08g/km, and fortunately all the M62 V8 engines from 2002 to 2006 are rated or tested to be 0.052g/km



The ULEZ standards are:

Euro 4 (NOx) for petrol cars, vans, minibuses and other specialist vehicles
Euro 6 (NOx and PM) for diesel cars, vans and minibuses and other specialist vehicles


Euro 4 became mandatory for all new cars in January 2005

The BMW 4.4 is Euro 3, the Jag 4.4 is Euro 4 as are all 4.2SCs IIRC.

My 2002 BMW 4.4 is listed by TfL as ULEZ Compliant....

It has been LPG converted and officially recorded as such on the V5 so maybe that makes a difference? "Gloria" 2002 L322 Voguish V8 LPG - carcass
"Jessica" 1996 Disco 1 300 TDi Auto
"Harriet" 1994 Disco 1 300 TDi Manual - Gone
"Daisy" 1992 Disco 1 200 TDi Manual - Gone

My 2004 BMW 4.4 also listed by TfL as ULEZ compliant - yay

mine is also LPG, but not on the V5C, I must get around to finding the oriignal certificate and invoice and posting it off to the LPG Vehicle conversion register for free

https://www.drivelpg.co.uk/advice-and-information/faqs/


so I don't think it matters whether it is a Euro 3 or Euro 4, what matters is the ULEZ website and that the emissions for this engine are below NOx: 0.08g/km

I nipped into the BCA auction in Derby this morning.

Two 2012 Westie’s going through. One Grey with 70200 miles went for £14100 and a black one with 96,000 miles went for £10800........

Jim

Assuming they were both from WBAC, it would be interesting to see what they paid for them.

even so, 10 grand for a 2012 Westminster - that is terrific value I reckon

Regarding ULEZ - my 2006 (56) 3.6TDV8 doesn't have to pay ULEZ, but my 2009 (09) 3.6TDV8 does. Please can someone explain

Neither have DPF btw. Land Rover Addict
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jim4244 wrote:

I nipped into the BCA auction in Derby this morning.

Two 2012 Westie’s going through. One Grey with 70200 miles went for £14100 and a black one with 96,000 miles went for £10800........

Jim

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Regarding ULEZ - my 2006 (56) 3.6TDV8 doesn't have to pay ULEZ, but my 2009 (09) 3.6TDV8 does. Please can someone explain

I was thinking the same, about TFLs system, no diesel L322 will be ULEZ compliant.
Easier rule of thumb than even entering the reg on their glitchy system, if it's got AdBlue you're ok.