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gilesharrison



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Fake Osram Xenon bulbs?

I just ordered some new xenon bulbs for my 2008 L322. I fancied something good so chose the Osram Nightbreaker Extreme bulbs in cool blue.

Anyway, best price I found were on eBay, from Germany. I've no objection to that. The advert looks ok, Osram packaging.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=ht...3463457321

They arrived today but were in a Mercedes parts box then inside that there was an odd 'Premium Xenon Bulb' box, no branding, just that written on it. The bulbs themselves have Osram on them which look ok.

Fitted the bulbs and they work but are pretty yellow, like halogen bulbs. Light pattern is ok but not amazing.

Quick google shows there are lots of fake Osram bulbs. I'm not convinced so I'm sending them back.

Anyone else had problems?

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mjdronfield



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Says this in the listing, so I’m guessing they are not new and might have defects etc?

Not ideal....


 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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gilesharrison



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To be honest, I didn't even read that before ordering.

The seller has said imcan return them. No argument or proclamation that they're genuine. So I think that confirms they're fake.

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Freddie The Fish



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Loads of fakes around, watched a whole programme dedicated to them last year. Osram have authenticity checker on their site.

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

That’s good then. New ones seem to be well over £100 on Amazon. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XENARC-BREAKER-br...amp;sr=8-4 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Freddie The Fish



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I paid £144 for two D3S ones (not for a RR).had to replace as one went, not that convinced I’ve noticed much difference over the standard ones despite the claims.

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Brian Considine



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Freddie The Fish wrote:
Osram have authenticity checker on their site.


I would not rely on it 100%.

Some years ago we used to source Osram MR16 Halogen Bulbs by the outer case for shop display lighting.
The packaging had information such as manufacturing/batch dates that was correct & was that good that Osram themselves could not tell the fakes from the genuine product until the bulbs themselves were checked.

We sourced them from reputable distributors & somehow, they got into the supply chain.

Absolutely anything can be faked - after all, if a bulb that cost (us) 35p is worth faking then bulbs that cost 100 times that defiantly are. 2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6

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gilesharrison



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Just to update this. I misunderstood the ebay returns process. The seller has not said he will take the return so I'm doing a PayPal Money Back guarantee thing.

Hopefully get my money back and I can get some others.

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Ansi



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Switzerland 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Adriatic Blue

In general there is nothing wrong with no name Xenons, I had a set from China for very little money for more then 8 years and still nice and bright shining. BTW 6000K is far to blue, I would never go above 5000K because I like to see something at night. 6000 is close to blue, so no real light in the dark.
Factory installed are between 4000 and 4400K!
just my 2 cents

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