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nick h



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CSK wrote:
I had a Cayenne before and I can confirm it does handle corners pretty well... at the expense of comfort.
The proper Range Rover has it beaten on this point and I think the RR has more class.
Mind you I have driven a 5.0 SC on a little mountain pass and I can assure you it did handle pretty well for such a heavy car, probably down to the new electronic suspension.


yes, the cayenne does lack the 'comfort' but it drives as a typical porsche - something i love

its an out and out drivers car - you get out of it what you put in!

but in overall terms as i said the FFRR beats it hands down

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bozmandb9



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Rant over! Razz[/quote]

calm down please Smile


OK, I just get a bit bored of the LPG comments escecially in relation to the S/C.

my comments are tongue firmly in cheek

actually i've driven supercharged in both FF and Sport - and yes great in a straight line but the laws of physics restrict you when it comes to undulating, twisty country roads

Of course, though when I first drove an S/C I the first time I went round a roundabout, I thought, 'Wow, is this a Range Rover!'

as for gas

may i direct you to a post you made on pistonheads on 28 Feb when a guy with a budget of £55K was asking for which car to buy and you replied

'... if i was you buying now with your budget it would have to be a diesel...' Laughing


I would not recommend anybody to convert a car under Land Rover warranty on the basis that it immediately voids the warranty. Also if you have the budget to purchase a TDV8, it makes a good alternative to converting an S/C to LPG. Almost as good economy, and not too much slower!
Very Happy



don't read too much into what i sometimes post - love playing devils advocate[/quote] Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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nick h



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glad we have sorted things Laughing

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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Off to look for a chipped TDV8 for some real power & torque....... Laughing

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CSK



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nick h wrote:
CSK wrote:
I had a Cayenne before and I can confirm it does handle corners pretty well... at the expense of comfort.
The proper Range Rover has it beaten on this point and I think the RR has more class.
Mind you I have driven a 5.0 SC on a little mountain pass and I can assure you it did handle pretty well for such a heavy car, probably down to the new electronic suspension.


yes, the cayenne does lack the 'comfort' but it drives as a typical porsche - something i love

its an out and out drivers car - you get out of it what you put in!

but in overall terms as i said the FFRR beats it hands down


Sorry Nick but I know my Porsche's and I think the Cayenne doesn't drive like a Porsche nor does it look like one.
It is fast and disguises its weight pretty well but don't say it drives like a proper Porsche as it doesn't!
The Cayenne appeals more to people who don't know what makes a proper Porsche, a bit like people who buy the Evoque thinking they are buying a Range Rover.
The Evoque will probably be a very good car in its own right but it will never be a Range Rover!
They should have called it the Land Rover Evoque but then again is it a proper Land Rover?

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bozmandb9



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CSK wrote:
nick h wrote:
CSK wrote:
I had a Cayenne before and I can confirm it does handle corners pretty well... at the expense of comfort.
The proper Range Rover has it beaten on this point and I think the RR has more class.
Mind you I have driven a 5.0 SC on a little mountain pass and I can assure you it did handle pretty well for such a heavy car, probably down to the new electronic suspension.


yes, the cayenne does lack the 'comfort' but it drives as a typical porsche - something i love

its an out and out drivers car - you get out of it what you put in!

but in overall terms as i said the FFRR beats it hands down


Sorry Nick but I know my Porsche's and I think the Cayenne doesn't drive like a Porsche nor does it look like one.
It is fast and disguises its weight pretty well but don't say it drives like a proper Porsche as it doesn't!
The Cayenne appeals more to people who don't know what makes a proper Porsche, a bit like people who buy the Evoque thinking they are buying a Range Rover.
The Evoque will probably be a very good car in its own right but it will never be a Range Rover!
They should have called it the Land Rover Evoque but then again is it a proper Land Rover?



Have to differ with you there CSK, I've had several Porsches, which purists would say are not 'proper' Porsches. To me, a Porsche (or a Land Rover) is a car produced by the company, not for us to decide if it warrants the badge, it's their privilege, and responsibility.

To many people a proper Porsche has to be rear engine, rear wheel drive, not so long ago it had to be air cooled as well. To some a 'proper' Land Rover must have a hoseable interior and ventilation flaps. Only problem is if the car production companies listened to the purists we would be driving around in cars which hadn't evolved! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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CSK



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I think you can modernise an icon and keep the spirit, like the 911 and proper Range Rover.

The good thing about the Cayenne and Panamera is that they are cash cows which enable Porsche to make the cars we like, the proper Porsche's!

Let us hope Land Rover will use the cash made from the Evoque to serve us with a proper Range Rover to replace the current one which will prove very difficult to replace!

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bozmandb9



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CSK wrote:
I think you can modernise an icon and keep the spirit, like the 911 and proper Range Rover.

The good thing about the Cayenne and Panamera is that they are cash cows which enable Porsche to make the cars we like, the proper Porsche's!

Let us hope Land Rover will use the cash made from the Evoque to serve us with a proper Range Rover to replace the current one which will prove very difficult to replace!


All very true!

Of course the other issue is that most manufacturers are having to compromise their product range just to hit co2 average targets! Banging Head Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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CSK



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That's why we have the Aston Martin Cygnet! Big Cry

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gttastic



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This one looks good value (although I've not come across a 4.0L Supercharged before)Rolling with laughter

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...?logcode=p

Has anybody dealt with or heard of any dealings with these guys?

Still undecided as to whether to go S/C (heart) or TDV8 (head). Even though I will be doing fairly low miles, with predicted petrol prices to hit as much as £9 a gallon, it does not bode well for petrol cars of this type.

What do you reckon - head or heart?

Incidentally, this car would qualify for a LR Approved Warranty based on current age and mileage. Would this be worth paying for (subject to said car passing inspection) for 1 year's peace of mind?

Post #53421 7th Mar 2011 8:36pm
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bozmandb9



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I would say that car must be worth a look.

With regard to your point about petrol vs diesel, I'd say if it's depreciation you're thinking about, then if petrol or diesel end up sky high, you'll be Censored on either fuel with a FFRR. However I expect things will blow over, prices will come back down, and hopefully in the meantime we'll have a fuel price stabiliser mechanism in the budget nest month.

So IMHO, don't worry too much about the fuel, just get the best car you can.

Only thing about the one you've found is that it's very nearly a 2007 model, but not quite, but on the other hand, if it was, it might be up for another couple of grand! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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