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Rapiscan



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Track rod ends replaced, now have problems.!

Hi, I've just replaced both track rod ends, I counted the turns as I screwed the old ones off (21).Put on the news ones, torqued everything up but now the steering wheel spokes are at 10to 2 instead of quarter to three when going straight, I have a rumblish kinda, noise and the suspension has switched itself off stating "suspension lowered"
I know the tracking needs calibrating but I didn't expect it to be far out having counted the screw offs, what on earth is, wrong?? Sad 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

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New ones could be different lengths perhaps. Best bet is to do the front toe in out using the string method to get you close to ok and get it in for 4 wheel alignment. If you have an iid tool put it in tight tolerance mode for doing this. Measuring lengths is better than turns when replacing. Current 2007 TDV8 Vogue Buckingham Blue

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Rapiscan



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Thanks for your reply. No the new ones, seem identical to me,. What is and how do you use the string method Please?
I'm assuming because the wheels are out of track quite substantially, the wheel angle sensor doesn't like what it's, reading and therefore closing down suspension and hdc etc? 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

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i personally wouldn't attempt any diy method...find someone with a hunters alignment machine and get it done properly, it shouldn't take long with the new track rods ..

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The DIY method is just to get it close enough to drive to the alignment shop as with the wheel out of line like that it's undriveable Current 2007 TDV8 Vogue Buckingham Blue

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What’s that thing where the height sensors can spin round or something if you take the suspension apart?

Not had it so don’t know, but it could explain your suspension throwing a wobbler.

Might be totally wrong of course....

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Regards the string method here is a link for a YouTube video. You get the wheel straight and then the steering lock will hold it or get someone to sit in the car holding the wheel straight. Easiest if you get the front wheels on some cardboard or thin wood to help them turn. Basically you line the string up evenly across the back wheel and run it like a brick line to the front of the car and you need to align the front wheel so it's the same distance from the string either side of the wheel. Racing teams use it to set are up at the tracks as they can't bring huge alignment machines etc with them. Maybe not F1 ones though! Will get you close enough to drive it for alignment on a hunter type 4 wheel machine

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When I did mine the wheel was miles out and the suspension systems hdc etc special programs all were off and the car couldn't be driven so did this and it was good to drive to the alignment shop. Current 2007 TDV8 Vogue Buckingham Blue

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When replacing the track rod ends and ending up with the steering wheel out of position when driving straight ahead it is quite easy to go out of the calibration range of the steering angle sensor. Don't ask how I know this. Embarassed Could be that the steering was incorrectly set before you touched it. It's possible you could reset the steering wheel to dead ahead by slackening off the track rod end lock nuts and moving them until the steering wheel is correct. This worked for me. I should point out that the required adjustment of the track rod ends is minute to achieve the required result. Counting the turns on and off seems to be a bit inaccurate on these cars.

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I have used this gauge on my old classic RR and on my Octy Vrs. it doesn't measure angles but indicates attempted side movement by the tyre (toe in / toe out). All you do is have your s/wheel set straight ahead and drive over it without stopping, then read the dial for toe in / or toe out. Repeat this for the other side, then, if need be, get the car laser tracked.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/gunson-g40...ent-gauge/

NB: My VRS was done this way, doesn't wander on motorways, and there is no uneven tyre wear. The same applied for my classic RR.

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Thanks for all the inputs, much appreciated!
I took it in and had all 4 wheels tracked for £71,drives real nice now... Just got to start on the ball joints, track control arms next... Shocked 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

I used to be indecisive and have a split personality... but we are ok now...I think?

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