After stopping and not being able to help someone who had come of the side of the road into a ditch today I would like to be able to get a strap / strop or rope to be able to recover someone (or be recovered if I need it ) I have a rope and shackles from back in my Jeep days but they have passed their sell by date. What's the latest thinking on the right type ? I'm thinking recovery rather than tow and not in too difficult a situation but could be used if I venture off road a bit ?

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tow rope from asda £6....you really dont need more than that to help peeps out of ditches... ... - .- -.




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Ummm I wouldn't want to try to pull any car out of the ditch with either my Def or the FFRR - while they may not be as heavy as a Landy the "towing eye" on most cars isn't a towing eye its a lashing down loop for transporting the car. Having seen what happened when I tied to pull a Suzuki out of a ditch using the metal loop under front valance on the Suzi I will never be a good Samaritan again on the open road, fortunately when the eye welded to the car gave way the shackle and strop went flying over the top of my 90 and didn't come straight back through the windscreen, and I was winching it on the 90's hydraulic winch. I would now leave any car recovery to a recovery truck who are experienced at where to put the tow hook and also know whether or not to use a lashing down eye for recovery. Same goes for Mr George at Asda's tow rope - it's a tow rope not a recovery rope. If you want a recovery strop then I would recommend a nylon webbing strap - they can be bought from most 4x4 websites for about £5 (depending on length and working load) and are much more suitable for recovery work than even a Halfords two rope, FYG these tow ropes have a safe working load of about 2t, the stress of pulling a car out of a ditch could be well in excess of that. 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 17th Feb 2011 9:15pm. Edited 1 time in total

Really?

What if it fails and causes damage?

FWIW/IMHO,

I would be looking for a tested and certified strop, same with shackles as well.

A very rough guide would something conforming to a BS standard but probably not less than 2tonne WLL and/or 5 tonne MBS.

This stuff will be suitable for off-road work and should therefore be more than adequate and last for roadside. E&OE.

If it fails it can kill you, that's what happens! It is important to have a suitably strong recovery rope/strop that is in good condition, but just as important is the suitablity of what you attach it too on the other vehicle. Due to shock loads you would want something to have a SWL of 4-5 tonnes (which with good stops and ropes need not be very big diameter or width in the case of a webbing strop. 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

Tim in Scotland wrote:

Ummm I wouldn't want to try to pull any car out of the ditch with either my Def or the FFRR - while they may not be as heavy as a Landy the "towing eye" on most cars isn't a towing eye its a lashing down loop for transporting the car. Having seen what happens when I tied to pull a Suzuki out of a ditch using the metal loop under front valance on the Suzi I will never be a good Samaritan again on the open road, fortunately when the eye welded to the car gave way the shackle and strop went flying over the top of my 90 and didn't come straight back through the windscreen, and I was winching it on the 90's hydraulic winch. I would now leave any car recovery to a recovery truck who are experienced at where to put the tow hook and also know whether or not to use a lashing down eye for recovery.

Something like these would be want you want if you really want to start hauling others out of the ditch!

http://www.damarwebbingproducts.com/offroad-tow-straps.html

And don't even think about buying a kinetic rope.......................... 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 17th Feb 2011 9:28pm. Edited 1 time in total

Best rope to use is one made from Eurosteel

blimey this is only to help the occasional motorist and how many times is that gonna happen...i used a cheap tow rope to pull out a car who's front end had gone into a ditch, put one end of the rope on the tow eye of the range and the other on the car's tow eye, pulled out with problems....if you're going to do this regularly then get the proper stuff but for the rare incident get a cheap tow rope..... ... - .- -.




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Used a Halfords stretch bungi 4 times this winter has quick release hooks and is rated to 5 tonnes cost me £15 2 years ago. I always hook onto a suspension point if its a car and the tow ball if available on my cars Far to many gone...

Tim in Scotland wrote:

Something like these would be want you want if you really want to start hauling others out of the ditch!

http://www.damarwebbingproducts.com/offroad-tow-straps.html

And don't even think about buying a kinetic rope..........................

Thanks Tim, that's the sort of thing I'm after

No way I would get a kinetic rope, I,ve seen a few in action. I'm not a complete novice to recovery and used to run this a few years ago when I last lived in the UK

It had a OME lift, sway bar disconnects, 31 BFG AT's, additional revovery points and was a whole lot of fun

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sorry , but isnt this a bit of a pointless question if you're ''not a novice to recovery''............ ... - .- -.




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scarey wrote:

sorry , but isnt this a bit of a pointless question if you're ''not a novice to recovery''............

Havent done much in the last 9 years so technology / thinking moves on in that time, when I had that Jeep ropes were what most people were using but new products were coming onto the market so I wanted to see what peoples thoughts were  2021 P400 Silicon Silver AB
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