nubbin wrote:

Final spec went in yesterday. I'm currently being quoted a handover date of 28th. November.

The sales guy was telling me that there are so many orders for high-spec Vogue SE cars that they are suspending/slowing AB production to cope with demand. Sorry all you AB buyers!

I can see the logic in that, but if there's so much stock around, why can't I have my new build sooner?

Damn this waiting around!!

Makes no sense to me

An AB or a VSE is just an options pack with a bit of a discount vs adding all the options to a Vogue - every car is built to order so there's no logic to slowing down AB's in preference to VSE's - unless I'm missing something

ABs still have a premium even when speccing a Vogue SE to the same level - works out at about £7-10k difference, so folks like me with a budget in mind will keep the extra cash for fuel, Gap insurance, fancy mats, shiny extra bits etc etc (or are those last ones just me getting over-excited?!!)

AndyS wrote:

More like too much stock around or slowing the lines due to lack of orders. My local dealer was well down in September so maybe this is the truth rather than the conspiracy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45785229

Told you so !!

Maybe getting the product right first time might help

Very excited has now turned to very angry! E-mailed my dealer today and asked about the factory stoppage, and was told my order now has a "Stopped build" order on it! F**kin B*s*ards!! 46% drop in sales so what is their response? Stop guaranteed customer orders in the UK so the workers can have a f**kin paid holiday!! Why not build the existing customer orders and THEN take a f*ckin break in production?! Not even an email to notify the customer stumping up their hard-earned cash for a supposedly dream purchase!!

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

(...deep breath...)

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

nubbin wrote:

ABs still have a premium even when speccing a Vogue SE to the same level - works out at about £7-10k difference, so folks like me with a budget in mind will keep the extra cash for fuel, Gap insurance, fancy mats, shiny extra bits etc etc (or are those last ones just me getting over-excited?!!)

If only that were possible, I’d have saved a load of money As it was, I only wanted the leather dash and door cards from the AB, but these weren’t even available as an option on the SE.

I feel your frustration on the order delay; such is the complex sequencing of production and delivery of components, in production order, on a just in time basis, that it’s probably impossible to re-sequence production to achieve what you need.

Those factory workers on their two week paid holiday will, likely as not, be spending a large part of it worrying about their job security.

I agree that a letter from LR to let you know that it was happening and why, would have been a much better way of finding out.

gutted for you, hope its gets sorted
Steve

Thanks chaps - I'm not getting at the workers, it just seems a bit counter-intuitive to stop production when there are plenty of customers still wanting their cars. It feels like the wading-through-treacle experience I often get when trying to deal with the labyrinthine catacomb that is NHS management - a constant feeling that no-one actually understands their role, no-one feels safe to make a decision, nor comprehends that at the service end, there are real people waving and asking politely to be served...

Anyway I rang LR customer Services this morning, and spoke a somewhat matey and slightly condescending chap who is tasking another chap to look in to why my car has a stop build order on it. Should hear something next week.

We ordered 3 last time, mine came first, then my mates a few weeks later... then silence. Gave them a few weeks and called.

"We've lost it" .... Order was reloaded and new vehicle built (another THREE MONTHS wait!).

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For a company who is meant to be up to the minute they really know how to screw people around. This seems to be both the manufacturers and the dealers.
We don't stand a chance as end users. Shame that the product is so good when it works otherwise we could all get on with our lives without all the heartache.

Not good chaps, for a premium brand car, you would think the cost of these cars everything would be spot on

Latest news is now an ETA on 14th. December, but could even slip back to February! If that turns out to be the case, I will probably cancel my order, spec up an AB with all the trimmings, and wait until the next plate change. Or buy an ex-demo of the right spec....

The concern with nearly new is that the supply constraints are causing late used cars to have very high asking prices. Sometimes worthless a premium if asking prices are to be believed. That won’t feel great, especially if the value tanks in 2 years time with L460 launch. In other words, holding out for a delayed VSE might not be so crazy.