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wayneg Member Since: 05 Jun 2013 Location: South Fremantle, Australia ( ex London ) Posts: 791 |
No nor would I, It does not have that effect, its not the engine temp that is manipulated its something from the Maf. There are reams of info on this mod and that was one of the 1st things I wanted to check. 2007 TDV8 VSE
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29th Mar 2018 8:56am |
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GraemeS Member Since: 06 Mar 2015 Location: Wagga area Posts: 2469 |
Fooling the inlet air temp sensor to spot that the EGR valve is not opened on idle or light throttle might not trigger a different fuel mix on the Paj. Even if I found documentation for the 4.4 that EGR was disabled below a specific ambient temperature, which may well occur as occurs prior to engine warm-up, I would be very hesitant to try it because I would expect a richer fuel mix would be used. According to the instantaneous fuel consumption display, mine's fuel consumption is significantly greater prior to the engine getting to operating temperature as shown by the temp gauge below its normally stable centre position compared with directly after, consistently seen travelling my lane at around 80 kph. Intake air temp from the primary MAF and ambient air temp from the passenger door mirror are used by the ecm. |
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29th Mar 2018 10:17am |
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wayneg Member Since: 05 Jun 2013 Location: South Fremantle, Australia ( ex London ) Posts: 791 |
Well as I said, Just a thought. This is well beyond my level of understanding. 2007 TDV8 VSE
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29th Mar 2018 10:43am |
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fisha Member Since: 25 Sep 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 1350 |
The engines not only sense the throttle valve position and the Egr position but also the pressures in each of the ducts. When it changes the valves it looks for corresponding pressure changes too. Simply blanking the pipe prevents those pressure changes and so the system knows something isn’t right.
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29th Mar 2018 6:49pm |
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Scottyav Member Since: 11 Feb 2013 Location: Cannock Staffordshire Posts: 1200 |
Have you seen this chap he owns a tune company he’s done dpf and egr delete?
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30th Mar 2018 11:36am |
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GraemeS Member Since: 06 Mar 2015 Location: Wagga area Posts: 2469 |
I found that I can get "dynamic EGR" remapping done locally. My understanding is that it allows EGR for engine warm-up only, although even that is still going to cause lots of carbon build-up. |
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3rd Apr 2018 5:04am |
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Laurie915 Member Since: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Canberra Posts: 72 |
Graeme
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3rd Apr 2018 7:47am |
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GraemeS Member Since: 06 Mar 2015 Location: Wagga area Posts: 2469 |
I have no experience with Provents and similar devices but less oil in the inlet tract is likely an improvement. However judging by the improved low rev throttle response of a previous TD5 D2 when its EGR was disabled and the very short blanked EGR test on this car, I'd still like to put an end to EGR in which case a Provent becomes a wasted investment, although the $700 EGR remap fee is significant. |
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3rd Apr 2018 11:24am |
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flashgordon Member Since: 23 Sep 2019 Location: Hannover Posts: 76 |
EGRs can have some bad impact on our cars / engines: soot
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29th Jan 2020 8:10am |
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flashgordon Member Since: 23 Sep 2019 Location: Hannover Posts: 76 |
btw:
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29th Jan 2020 9:18am |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3542 |
A guy here posted who has done an EGR delete on a 4.4TDV8.
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29th Jan 2020 9:44am |
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fisha Member Since: 25 Sep 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 1350 |
Yes and no. In theory, Yes, you could increase the cooling capacity of the engine cooling liquid system so that it can soak up and dissipate more heat ... but ... the recirculated gas serves going back into the combustion chamber in part serves to choke and stiffle the burn within the combustion cylinder, leading to it not burning as hot (compared to no re-circulated gas). So the EGR setup serves to reduce the intial heat generated in the combustion process, potentially placing less thermal stress on the engine components ( valves, headers, etc ). ... so maybe a no then too ! V8 or else ... |
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1st Feb 2020 7:56pm |
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GraemeS Member Since: 06 Mar 2015 Location: Wagga area Posts: 2469 |
The lowered combustion temperature is at idle or light throttle in order to lower noxious gas production that occurs when combustion temperatures are high, not when the engine is working hard at which time the EGR valve is kept closed yet the cooling system is able to do a good job. High low-load combustion temperatures are very cool for the engine overall compared with when the engine is working hard. |
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1st Feb 2020 9:44pm |
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DrRob Member Since: 16 Apr 2015 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire Posts: 4300 |
Durham Remaps can remove both for £595 Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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31st Mar 2021 12:51pm |
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