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TerryT-J



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Wales 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black
Gearbox - AGAIN!

Well here I sit waiting for the RAC. Clunks and vibrations from underneath, trans. Failsafe prog on dash and come to a halt. No drive forwards or reverse. Switch off engine, restart, forward drive but no reverse. Not going to risk moving. This is a replacement box fitted 3 years ago. 30 000 miles. Not happy. Time for a total change of car I think.😡

Post #457646 17th Nov 2017 7:46pm
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umitbat



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A Trap 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Atacama Sand

Sounds like torque;i just revised mine. 2010 3.6tdv8 180k km.
sold 06 td6 160k
Sold 03 td6 260k

Post #457649 17th Nov 2017 7:53pm
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TerryT-J



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Wales 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

Had to put transfer box in neutral to get it off breakdown truck. Seemed to be jammed n mater what position selector was in. Once off and fuse removed did not want to go backwards when reverse selected but would go forward! Would torque converter jam it up?

Post #457659 17th Nov 2017 8:41pm
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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

The problem with the TD6 GM transmission is the valve body is quite often overlooked during the refurb which is the root cause of the TC failure and so when everything is replaced if the valve body isn’t upgraded the reduced pressure on the TC causes premature failure from what I gather. Sometimes they fail after only 10 k miles.
When the TC fails on the GM TD6 box all the debris is sent into the transmission trashing that also.
Did you get any warning ?

Post #457678 18th Nov 2017 2:03am
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TerryT-J



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Wales 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

No, no warning at all!

Post #457692 18th Nov 2017 9:46am
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jim4244



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England 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zambezi Silver

I read posts like this and it once again puts me off buying a FF.........😩

Post #457741 18th Nov 2017 4:30pm
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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Not sure if this is your cause but some information here.
I would imagine it is still economical to repair depending on where you go.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458451

I know nothing of these people but top of the google pile

http://www.rangerover-gearboxes.co.uk/land...gKD3PD_BwE

Post #457745 18th Nov 2017 4:46pm
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Glynn



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zambezi Silver

Seems to me like these gearboxes are very poor, every one Ive owned (in either BMW or RR) have failed. Yet the Mercedes ones Ive never had a problem with

Post #457767 18th Nov 2017 7:06pm
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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

I get the impression the GM boxes are quite poor but the ZF boxes can at least be reasoned with

Post #457775 18th Nov 2017 8:57pm
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TerryT-J



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Wales 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

Well I got the FF back today, gearbox was re-built. Problem was an output shaft which is hollow that had what i can only describe as a spiral shear. It looked like a bog roll tube that had been opened up! I'm trying to get a photo.

Post #459950 7th Dec 2017 4:32pm
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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2015 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Baltic Blue

Rrphil has highlighted this before - have a search and you will find a great photo of exactly this on one of his posts. Thumbs Up

Post #459961 7th Dec 2017 5:42pm
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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Here is one of them, i do recall reading it now you say it.

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic14509.html?view=previous

Post #459975 7th Dec 2017 7:18pm
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