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Arkle



Member Since: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Cheshire
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Is this my Original Battery? 2006 4.2SC.

Hi Everyone!

Over the past few months, I have had a couple of intermittent problems "BONG" at me which (from what I have read) lead me to believe that my battery may be at fault.

HDC Fault.

Transmission Failure - Only Limited Gears Available.


The car never fails to start perfectly first time, every time.


Can anyone tell if the battery in the image below is the original, or old?




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Thanks in advance.

Paul.

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Post #438092 11th May 2017 11:23pm
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steveball



Member Since: 09 Jun 2011
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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Bournville

I don't think we can tell whether it's the original, but it very well could be. If it's not original, it is obviously a genuine replacement. If it happens to be original, it's now 11 years old, which would be very good going. There is a good chance that it's starting to fail and another winter would probably see it off.

The faults you're seeing could well be caused by low voltage when cranking. That's often a sign of a battery starting to go bad as cell resistance increases as lead sulphate coats the plates. At high current draw, even small additional resistance results in appreciable voltage drop. These sort of messages tend to crop up before any sign of failing to start.

I would also make sure you're confident in the alternator as failure to fully charge the battery can give similar symptoms and under charging would damage your new battery if you were to replace.

Alternators tend to fail with bad diodes or ineffective voltage regulators. For these symptoms, voltage regulator most likely. Bad diodes tend to lead to loss of charging current or battery drain overnight. The voltage regulator sets the alternator output voltage to avoid damaging electronics or overcharging the battery.

Voltage regulator is built into the alternator and is crucial. If it shuts off too early, battery won't fully charge and this can lead to sulphation of the plates. You really need an accurate digital voltmeter to test at the battery posts. With engine running (idling) for a few minutes and minimal electrical load, voltage at the battery posts should be somewhere between 14.2v - 14.4v. If less than that, test at the alternator output, which should be about 14.5v. Current: 2010 Range Rover L322
Vogue SE, TDV8 3.6, Bournville
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Now gone: 2002 Range Rover L322
Vogue, TD6, Giverney Green

Post #438246 13th May 2017 10:33am
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Weegie



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Scotland 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

From another forum:
"there are four numbers on top of the battery post, the negative one I think. The first two are 01 upto 52, which is the week number, the other two are the year."

Have a look to see if there are any numbers. John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
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Arkle



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Hi Steve and Weejie,

Many thanks for replying and for the information.

The battery is a duffer.
I drove 235 mile on Friday night and after charging my phone with the ignition switched on for 10 - 15 minutes the car would not start again! This time I got additional message for "Check Brake Light" and another I cannot remember - It was 1am...

Called RAC. Their mechanic thought that the battery could well be the original unit and confirmed it was goosed (but thankfully alternator ok) with the report shown in the text below.


Battery Test Results
Battery Test
Battery Manufacturer: VARTA
Rating of battery tested: 850SAE
Chemistry of battery tested: FLOODED
Rated Ah of battery tested: 110
Smart charge: No
Battery Test Results
Time: 13/05/2017 01:36
Temperature: 20°C
Measured voltage: 9.8Volts
Measured rating: 55SAE
Reserve capacity: Poor Reserve
State of health: 40%
State of charge: 0%
Test Result: Replace battery
System Test
Jump pack used:Yes
Starter Avg voltage: 9.13Volts
Starter Avg current: 22.5Amps
Starter result decision: Charge Battery
Alternator voltage (unloaded): 13.98Volts
Alternator voltage (loaded): 13.98Volts
Alternator current (unloaded): 52.9Amps
Alternator current (loaded): 61.6Amps
Charge acceptance test performed: No
Diode decision: Normal
Alternator test decision: Normal
First drain test voltage: 10.07Volts
First drain test current: -2.4Amps
Second drain test voltage: 11.42Volts
Second drain test current: -2.2Amps


Many thanks.

All the best

Paul.

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