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crookedm



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Diesel

I look forward to the day the Royal Family go first and get rid of their fleet of SUV's go on Charlie boy you first mr eco (way higher carbon footprint than most, has helicopter access, fleet of luxury cars, planes etc). Same for the MP's most are escorted around in the vehicles they so loathe.....cough hypocrisy...cough

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43...ys-MP.html

I fail to see why the onus isn't on encouraging those that can to work from home and give incentives to those companies that encourage it.

The driving to work to sit with others you work with is outdated by now surely...

Post #434426 10th Apr 2017 8:36am
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OMG and i thought that we in Germany invented the stupidness..... Rolling Eyes

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mzplcg



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Hmmm, it does look like a very blunt instrument to tackle the problem. There are so many facets to this it will never be solved with such a simple measure.

Diesel cars account for less than one tenth of inner city Nox pollution so this has to potential to address 10%. Note, address, not cure. So if half is removed that means 5% less. Hmmmm. What about addressing the other 90%.

City buses. Huge polluters. They are costly to replace but a decent programme of converting them to electric power would make sense.

London Taxis, millions of the feckers, all with that ancient Nissan 2.7 non turbo diesel. How about giving them a decent programme of upgrades. Newer clean engine with hybrid electric options, maybe full electric with a small LPG donkey engine to charge the batteries.

HGV deliveries. There's no getting away from the fact these things are necessary. So how about some kind of city edge terminal to change over to an electric powered tractor unit? Short distance stuff. The diesel engines are already a lot cleaner for the long distance stuff but get rid of non Euro-6 trucks. They can be re-engined at a fraction of the cost of replacing them anyway. How about night-only deliveries to ease daytime congestion?

Congestion is one of the worst offenders. Constant stop and start of any vehicle is a huge problem here. Instead of traffic calming the highways authorities should be looking to keep it all moving.

So giving people a grand to replace an older diesel car does rather seem like turning up to a gunfight with a knife when all things are considered. It would make much more sense to use that cash to develop some retrofit emissions reducing kits. These could be applied to all vehicles, not just cars. A lot of these vehicles are perfectly serviceable in all other respects, they just need the emissions cleaning up. Baby and bath water comes to mind.

And all that before we even consider heating boilers in almost every building, air travel increasing an an exponential rate, coal fired power stations etc. Yeah, gunfight and knife is being generous, perhaps I should have said toothpick.

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kingpleb



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My simple solution is that there should be super fine mist sprayers on every building corner and every night for an hour or two they all switch on and bring down all the horrid nasty stuff with them Very Happy

Seriously though if a company can do cheap enough electric conversions to existing cars, maybe buying up some of the worst diesels and converting them for say £5-10k of which some was a gov loan of some sort it would help a lot.

My daily hack is now on 229k and is over 20years old. It runs on veg and anything else i chuck in the tank from servicing it or my other vehicles and gets between 40-65mpg. There is no point getting £1k for it as i'd then buy a newer diesel which would then cost more than that £1k on finance or repairs in the next few years and all the resources to make my current work hack would have been wasted when it can lead a bit longer of a life and still do less hard to the planet.

Maybe another option is retrofit of water spray into the exhaust to drop the particles to the floor straight out of the exhaust?
The Low Emission Zone in london takes care of all this emission stuff during the daytime doesnt it? FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Andy



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Can they not modify the diesel itself?

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