Thats interesting win the HGV with natural gas, I have been following this for a while and I don't think it will make the car market due to the weight of the tanks because natural gas needs much higher pressures than lpg to be liquid you have to have a really heavy duty tank which I think will make it not easy to be put onto cars.

When are they going to start punishing the black cabs and buses that push out way more cr4p than most vehicles. Car owners seem to be an easy target.

The biggest nonsense in this derv/pet malarky is that its only 20 years ago that the govet was offering a grant to convert to lpg on certain cars. There was no congestion charge for LPG vehicles and there was a £10 VED discount. Then over night, the same vehicles which had been lorded for producing so little nasties from the exhaust pipe , virtually just water, where decreed the devils spawn and they now must pay the congestion charge. Nothing changed, they didnt just discover some cancer causing horror in the lpg fumes, NO, it just simply bolied down to being too popular and eating in to the C.C take and the fuel duty being collected from petrol as lpg had a lower rate .

A couple of you have mentioned congestion charge in this thread, I worked with one of the companies that ran it. It was a great source of revenue for the capital (which they got to depend on) however as it was successful the "take" dropped so they put the price up. Taking it to its logical conclusion if it was very successful i.e. no vehicles they would go bust.

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Petrol just keeps on rolling along just look at the latest engines from Ford  Geoff

So what's the answer ? Get a supercharged and use more fuel? Or stick with a diesel and use less fuel but have similar emissions but less fuel? No real answer as they both have high emissions 😢

Get a petrol and lpg it!

0% NO2!

I thought that you couldn't make a supercharged LPG ?

Diseasal is dead (thank the lord).

However that means residuals will plummet

Petrol has been the better bet and it will become the mains of the hybrids (I bet even will drop diseasal hybrid in favour of the either the 4pot or six pot ingenium soon enough.

And I expect the entire range to drop diseasal and go petrol/hybrid until the e-pace tech is sorted.

Diseasal was always doomed, is bloody carcinogenic before compress it and burn ..... and how much after care can you cram in to meet stricter and stricter emission targets? It's not cost effective even on product like sdv8 (which is due to go EOL soon anyway).

Like or not the 'Elon Effect' has taken hold.

I think we are starting to finally see electric cars becoming more popular (and desirable with the Tesla and the BMW job). Whether they will ever totally replace petrol or oil burners I am not sure - maybe outside cities or in massive countries like America they may never be practical.

Had ours for 4 years now still love it, without a doubt they are the the best all round car money can buy, apart from the Gearbox and alternator failing within a month of each other it's been a joy and deffo going to get another as and when. 2004 vogue
1978 Pontiac Firebird
2010 Fiesta