What other parts?

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Based on the crash test results that Pete posted on this thread I'm happy with the L405.

There's more to it than 'strength' - and rigidity is probably a bad thing.....

If you did not opt for the open sunroof this would have been just a scratch.

Simon, I have pm'd you regarding struts, wishbone, sensors and associated parts for 405.
I will be posting them in the appropriate section later this week.

When I did the Solihull tour I asked about 405 vulnerability compared with the 322. I was told that specialist repair centres were being established to deal with the more complex task of repairing aluminium cars. The experience at that time was that 405s were more likely to be written off after an impact, as there was less scope for repairs and where repairs were possible they would probably be more expensive. Only Range Rovers since 1988

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Range Rover P38a 2.5 DHSE - Just sold
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Doodle wrote:

For sure the 322 is more robust.

Doodle wrote:

Too much road biased on 405, but I guess that's what most owners want them to be.

You bet! Better the car absorbs any impact than me. I recall many years back being hit from behind. I was in my Triumph Dolomite sat still at lights and a milk float (electric thingy) ran into the back of me. I was off work for almost 2 months whilst my back recovered.

Now, compare that with last week when I was hit from behind in a L405 by a BMW. Again I was sat still at lights when I got an almighty shunt which has done me no physical harm whatsoever. The Range Rover did its job, i.e. it protected me. it was also a loaner whilst mine was in for service so even better. But, whilst the outward damage looks minor the crash beam behind the bumper skin is bent and the bodywork it's bolted to has some deformation. All that energy would have been transferred to me in an older car and I would probably have been injured.

Note that L405 in your picture still has the passenger cell intact. Everyone would have walked away from that at a guess. That same crash in a Defender would probably have killed the occupants.

In general Ali is 'better' than steel wrt the desired dynamics during the crash pulse and energy deflection.

Ali is extensively used on some of the cheaper super and hyper cars as the 'collapsible' bit and typically bolts onto the carbon tub.

But it's not just about the primary impact. Safety cell need to be strong and resist several impacts - high strength steel and carbon are preferred for that.

Ladder chassis has some inherent advantages, but it doesn't crumple well to absorb energy unless it has been designed to (D2 chassis and P38a chassis where designed to crumple).

Fundamentally though I'd suggest L405 is a better place to be than L322, crush standards and technology have moved on (look at tesla and side impact - far superior performance if you ignore the potential lithium-ion bomb your sat on).

L405 roof crush is designed to exceed 3X vehicle weight, L322 wasn't.

L405 has specific sacrificial components to deal with more types of crash.

L405 has been designed to have more torsional rigidity than L322 - and L322 was a huge step up from P38a in this regard.

However, Newtonian laws of physics still apply - if you bigger/have more mass than what you hit, then you are in the better place (I'm referring to the second law here).

This is born out in reality, a bigger vehicle will generally always push a smaller vehicle some way backwards in a head-on (I'm referring to the third law here).

Would be interesting to see what would happen in a L322 head-on into a L405. I suspect your chances of survival and less injury are higher in the more modern L405.