Thanks, correct for the AB model. Meaning similar depreciation curves then.

There is the option of the VSE for the 4.4 (but not the SC) and that is more than £10k less than the SC AB. Unsure how the depreciation curves compare.

Bottom line with all RR's is they lose money, and lots of it  MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

I got to admit that I check to fuel consumption on my SC from time to time as I've had a sticking brake caliper or two over the years any sudden increase in fuel usage is a bit of a giveaway, so is burning your fingers when touching the disc. I have to say the acceleration is awesome and so I would miss it and also I would miss the celebratory beer when the fuel consumption rises above 20mpg.

If you can afford a FF you can probably afford the fuel - what I find depressing is the number of visits I have to make to the local Tesco to fill up, a real PITA.

I would suggest if you are bothered by high road tax, lack of handling, cost of fuel, depreciation, high maintenance costs etc then a FF shouldn't be first on your list, but on the other hand if you just want a great car ...................  Geoff

Geoff, you have a point. My 4.4 gives me just under 500 miles between fill ups. How many miles does a 5.0SC deliver between fill ups? MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

Why don't you guys buy second hand - with my car for an example the former owner took a hit of 51.000 pounds after 2 years and 3 months.

PS: i paid cash at the local LR dealer with a warranty. All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2021 AM new Vantage

My recommendation is the SC. Why? You ALREADY have a diesel L405. The difference between your current car and the SC will be a lot more than the diesel V8. Both diesels are great, but you don't want to get in the new car and say, "Why did I change?"

SC next time then, sod it

 All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2021 AM new Vantage

I have the 5.0SC in an F-Type and it's addictive. You won't be disappointed  MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

Although it's slightly old, I've been reading this thread with great interest..... I currently have a 2018MY FFRR on order which I need to finalise the spec on within the next few weeks and engine choice is proving to be one of my biggest dilemmas.

I've got a Solihull factory visit booked in two weeks time, where I will meet one of there configuration specialists, get a tour of the factory and finalise the spec.

I currently own a 2007MY 4.4 Vogue Petrol and a 2016 Bentley Mulsanne Speed, so I'm not used to diesel engines, or any kind of noise in the cabin, although that said, I recognise that diesels have come on an awful lot in recent years.

As peace and quiet in the cabin is more important to me than speed, I've narrowed my choices down to either a 5.0 SC AB or a 3,0 TDV6 AB. I'd arrived at this decision on the understanding that the 3.0 diesel was quieter than the 4.4, while also still providing adequate torque, yet within this thread the 3.0TDV6 doesn't seem to get a single mention as a contender!

Taking into account my requirements above, should the 4.4 be in my shortlist, or as suspected, will I find the 3.0TDV6 quieter?

I've dismissed the 3.0 petrol supercharged as I test drove one, and it seemed very under powered.

I've also dismissed the new hybrid, as if I'm worried that if travelling any distance, once the 31 miles of electric power has gone, I'll be left running on nothing more than a 4 cylinder petrol engine.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

I've currently spec'd as follows:

https://rules.config.landrover.com/jdxl/en...ayoff.html

Whilst the TDV6 is smoother and quieter (SDV8 is definitely a diesel at idle), the SDV8 just feels more relaxed in its delivery, and it’s quicker. Also, the hydraulic anti-roll is supposedly only there to mitigate the massive weight of the diesel V8 (but note the lighter Supercharged has it), but the TDV6 also rolls a lot by normal car standards.

The downsides of the petrol V8 are economy (much shorter range as much as anything), and not having that effortless big turbo diesel feeling of torque low-down (although I’ll qualify that by saying I haven’t actually lived with a supercharged V8 one).

The SDV8 is a belting engine but if ultimately peace and relaxation is your thing then you've picked the right two contenders.

It's true that the Full fat 3.0 tdv6 is a bit willowy around corners but so are all Full Fats. They are tall cars not designed to belt around hair-pins I've had both types of diesels and in my honest opinion one isn't noticeably tighter than the other. I appreciate the SDV8 and the SC get a fancy bag of tricks to help with the corners but the tdv6 is lighter at the nose so probably doesn't need it as it's 250Kg lighter than the SDV8 and around a 100Kg less than the SC. 2016 SDV8 Autobiography
And several others previously.

Thank you Trommel and Basilfawlty, both your opinions are very helpful.

This is a real tough one...... I'm honestly not too bothered about speed as I don't feel this is what FFRR's are ultimately about, refinement however for me is a key consideration.

While the following factors aren't everything, I have considered both depreciation and fuel consumption and have also just done a very quick basic calculation on fuel costs below..... I think sometimes we all (myself included) get too hung up on fuel consumption, when in the scheme of things, the difference is maybe not as great as we may think. My (rough) calculations are as follows, based on 75% out of town / motorway driving and 25% in town driving:

Diesel 4.4 TDV8
Fuel cost approx £5,00 per Gallon averaging 33 mpg

30 gallons total cost = £150 per 1,000 miles
300 gallons total cost = £1,500 per 10,000 miles
3,000 gallons total cost = £15,000 per 100,000 miles

Petrol 5.0 SC
Fuel cost approx £5,00 per Gallon averaging 22 mpg

45 gallons total cost = £225 per 1,000 miles
450 gallons total cost = £2,250 per 10,000 miles
4,500 gallons total cost = £22,500 per 100,000 miles

So in short, if you cover 100,000 miles in a 5.0 SC in lets say 5 years, the difference in cost resulting from fuel consumption, only equates to roughly £1,500 per annum, considerably less at £750 per annum if you're someone who only covers 10,000 miles each year!

So in the scheme of things, taking into account just how much Range Rover's depreciate, it would seem that the 5.0 SC is not that much more expensive to fuel than the 4.4 diesel V8.

So I suppose I'm probably still leaning towards the 5.0 SC..... However, the only other thing that puts me off this engine, is the fact that I drove a 2010 L322 5.0 SC a few years ago, and I thought the Supercharger really screamed loudly under acceleration..... Has anyone else experienced this? and has the new model become slightly quieter?

Many thanks

From experience the 4.4 is more likely to deliver nearer 30MPG or a bit less for the driving condition scenario presented, so the fuel cost differential is even less.

I can only comment on the 5.0V8 in a F-Type and there is no discernible supercharger noise. MY23 D350 HSE
On my 7th RR plus various other JLR vehicles

If you want refinement, get the petrol - as you say, the fuel cost difference isn't huge (and is a small part of overall ownership costs). Just means you'll spend more time standing at the pumps.

I've only had petrol Range Rovers - this is because I do a lot of short journeys - which the diesel engine wouldn't appreciate.

If I had further to travel I would get a diesel.