Yep, issue of the jack has come up several times on the forum. I used mine earlier this year to change a wheel and the winder handle bent due to the amount of pressure I had to put on the jack just to lift the car wheel off the ground and the scissor jack seemed to twist slightly aswell. LR replaced the lot under warranty , but in line with what you say, I think they need to come up with a more robust jack with twin scissors or something. The L322 one was the same . Not sure about removing the wheel first before getting the jack out as the only real reason I would want to use the jack was to change a punctured tyre and so would need the spare out anyway, that said , the hard bit is even getting the jack out/replacing it when the wheel has been removed, I end up getting into the boot just to put it away again, a cubby hole in the floor on the left or right side of the boot would have been better. Steve
Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans
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