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gregdav



Member Since: 26 May 2014
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England 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Bonatti Grey

Didn't own the previous non bt iid tool, so can't compare, but I must say it's really easy to use, even for a technophobe like me.a real big thank you to the guys at gap, for producing such a good product at a decent price.
glad to hear your getting better pete, and by the sound of it on the move as well, like me.
all the best, greg. Thumbs Up
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Time for some more work on the bumpers, we made them just over a year ago and I didn't get time to complete them just how I wanted them or finish them properly before the photo shoot for LRO....

So a year out in the wilds with no protection meant they were looking a bit second hand.. especially the rear one..

Rear bumper, all that mess at the bottom is rust bubbles...





Inside of the rear bumper





I also had a later supercharged look grill donated to the cause (thanks Ross) so decided to butcher it to fit, these grills fit so much better around the winch as they are more "complete" ie you can cut smaller bits off without them falling apart, 20mins with a 1mm cutting disk and it fits... Plus I get to keep the Land Rover badge...





The chrome trim I cut off the bottom for the winch will trim both sides and finish it off by hiding the curve where it goes around the later light and the slight curve in the bottom rail, this is an aftermarket chrome grille and it's quite badly pitted so I will paint it to cut down the "bling" a bit...





I also fancied a few extras, some fog/driving lights in the front bumper, something close to the original. Being a child of the 70's I'vs always wanted something "Frenched" in as was all the rage back then...... and also (and this is VERY unusual for me) an "A" bar, I have never liked them and never had one on any car I've had but I offered one up a while ago at my mates as he had some for 90's lying around... anyway a few mods to the size, work out the width at the top and the side angles and had this bent up out of 60mm tube with a 5mm wall, so it's not just for show....

They leave them nice and long for height adjustment...





Worked out the height required and also tilted it forward a few degrees, upright just didn't look right...





This also means you can't steal the winch, it won't come out through the hole... makes the bumper a bit heavy when fitting it with the winch though...!!!

Also, anyone notice the big Censored up.... new grill means I get the Land Rover badge back (the earlier grille's badge is further towards the center of the car so was totally removed when trimming for the winch) and the new "A" bar means you can't see it....

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Oh well, you can't have everything and the keen eyed among you will notice that I had some Land Rover badges made in a different proportion so it would fit in place of the "ComeUp" badge on the winch...

I digress... on with the bumpers...

Next job was to markup and cut out the hole for the fogs, bumpers thickness here is 4mm so took a while with a jigsaw, notice how the cutout wants to return to it's original flat shape.. also had to cut out an ellipse as I wanted the lights facing forward on the curved bumper..


Cut a 50mm wide strip of 3mm plate (all that was in stock) made a former and bent it into a rough shape, beat hell out of it with a hammer and got it in the hole, careful measurements and the use of several squares ensured the lights would point "sort of" in the right direction...


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Tack weld and hammer to make it fit, then cut off the excess from the front



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The run a weld all the way round...


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Then grind it back and try the light for size, lights a bit low here, I'll bring it forward a bit when fitted.. lights were cheap LED's from China, very bright and cheap to replace, they also have plastic lenses so pretty tough... Doesn't look very round here, but it's just the angle the pic is taken from...


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Then start again the other side... and finally weld the "A" bar on...





Then it was time for the rear bumper, no mods to it but I did want a towbar that was removable. Obviously only for use off road as it will not have type approval... Whistle

We decided to go mad with this, 5 x 50mm angle hooked behind the 8mm plate that is the rear of the bumper, this remember is bolted to the rear of the car, and also the spreaders that reach forward down the chassis legs... (yes I know it hasn't got a chassis but the rear legs are just like one and thicker and stronger than most cars...!!!) This is probably three times as strong as the original tow bar, no way is this bending or breaking...

This angle is bolted to the bumper with three M16 bolts into captive nuts, then another 5 x 50mm plate under the bumper bolted with another 2 M16 bolts into captive nuts that miss the winch.. 100x50x5mm box section is then welded on with side fillets to stop flex, then a drop plate made from 10mm plate to the required height (the center hole is the correct height when the FF is at "my" standard height) was welded on the end with another fillet underneath and a top fillet as well... No way is this not strong enough... It's also not that heavy so will be easy enough to fit and remove...

The rear bumper is upside down here...



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Some nice welding...


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The bumpers are now going off for shot blasting and should be back tomorrow, I'll fettle the bumpers hopefully Monday and then both bumpers and the tow bar will go off for hot dip galvanising...

Drove the FF home without any bumpers but it was dark so no one noticed....





Looks like it's got it's mouth open... Jetwashed all the mud off as well...

A big thanks to my mate Nidge who is pretty good at welding and strong enough to hump them about, whilst I fall about all over the place.... Anyone need some fabricating doing let me know, he does it all.... Thumbs Up Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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rar110



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Australia 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

Looks great. Can you send it away to get copied about 50 times. There are a few over here who want some kind of brush/roo bar. ______________________________
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Would be pretty easy to make a bar that bolted through the bumper onto a frame built around the original crash structure.. Aren't you limited to approved stuff only though...??? Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
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rar110



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Australia 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

Forgot about that. Need to find someone to certify that a crash test dummy will survive an impact or something.

Your bar design is so close to the original shape that certification should be straight forward. ______________________________
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rar110



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Australia 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

The only thing that might need changing is receeded recovery points. ______________________________
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

These were done with hand tools, hammers and welders, would be easy enough to make some up and if you had a good plasma/waterjet table would be pretty straight forward...

We did price these up if someone else wanted one and it would be near £1,500 for the pair... folk don't want to spend that much... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
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miggit



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That's still half the price of the LR winch kit Whistle And you get two winch mounts Thumbs Up

Whistle Pete seeing how you've neatly "frenched" the fog lights, couldn't you do a similar thing in the "A" bar, but say oval Wink Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Yeah, could do, not really that fussed, the standard one had to have a bigger hole cut than idea as you needed to cut half the badge off really, and that looked weird...!!! Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
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Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Thumbs Up great work !! All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Tangiers Orange

Offroader L322 Version 2.0 is going to be epic. It will loose its stock(ish) look but will be another step above the rest, as I do not think anyone has modified his/her L322 for off road to this extent l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

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miggit



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Whistle Pete, Buddy.... I have a thought that might solve the grill problem.... Have you looked in to rotating the gearbox, so that the clutch lever isn't at 12 o'clock? There isn't much info about your winch, when it comes to parts diagrams.... but from what I can see it's held on with 8 bolts.... so theoretically could it not be moved 45 degrees, away from the grill? Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Thanks verydisco...

miggit, unfortunately they only move through 90deg, they do do an air operated one but I'm too stingy to buy it... it'll be OK at this... Thumbs Up Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Bumpers back from blasting... should just lacquer them, they look the nuts....!!!!












That's another favour I owe a mate.... Rolling Eyes

They just need a minor fettling and then off for galvanising... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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gregdav



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England 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Bonatti Grey

Nice job pete, and lovely welding. Thumbs Up
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