After 2years of dry ownership I've now got the dreaded water ingress into the rear spare wheel well and all over the dsp amp. Luckily I've managed to save the amp by taking it apart and thoroughly drying it with a hair dryer and electrical contact cleaner. I think I've managed to locate the source of the leak but I just can't seem to work out how to take the cream felt trim off (the one on the C pillar, under the rear seat belt connecting point). Am reluctant to just force it off as worried I might set of the airbag that's located under it. The top end of the grey leather trim (see pic below) seems to be bolted onto this seat belt trim further up inside and I can't get a spanner to it let alone my fingers. Can anyone give me advice on how both trims are removed without chancing the airbag. Cheers

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According to RAVE, you have to remove the upper trim, (remove sufficient aperture seal - rubber door seal). which is apparently clipped in This reveals two torx screws holding the lower trim in place. John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

Thanks for the quick reply John.......do you have the link to the rave section dealing with this? The problem is the very tight fit of this trim even with the door seal slightly peeled back.....cant get anything in there. Reluctant to be brutal because of the close proximity of the airbag.

RAVE download links are in the wiki.. ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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You can disable the airbags to give you peace of mind.

"Making the system safe
Before working on or in the vicinity of SRS components, ensure the system is rendered safe by performing the following operations.
l Remove the ignition key
l Disconnect battery, earth lead first
l Wait 10 minutes for the SRS power circuit to
discharge before commencing work
The SRS uses energy reserve capacitors to keep the
system active in the event of electrical supply failure
under crash conditions. It is necessary to allow the
capacitors sufficient time to discharge (10 minutes)
in order to avoid the risk of accidental deployment." John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

Ah was kinda hoping to avoid disconnecting the battery......usually leads to electrical gremlins on re connection.

There's evidence of water on top of the seat belt reel inside the C pillar (under the trim). Slightly confused as to where the water ingress point is. Door seal on both door and body seem bone dry. Do the roof rack points have holes/bolts/ screws that go through to the underside of the roof skin?

UPDATED with pic

Decided to take off the rear passenger seat belt trim with brute force.....bit of a struggle as it was a very tight fitment but 2 clips (at the top on the underside) just popped off, freeing up the trim. There were water droplets on top off the belt reel and the top of the seatbelt trim was also slightly damp. Logically the water must be entering from much higher up in the car. I then proceeded to test the sunroof drain holes. The FRONT drain holes were reasonably clear, as evidenced by the water dripping out of the other end underneath.... but with a quick spray of wd40 and some boiling hot water poured into the front drain hole it cleared the tube up even more. However on pouring water into the REAR passenger side sunroof drain hole no such luck, not even a drip beneath the car. Upon prising open the roof lining approximately halfway between the B & C pillar i could see the starting/connecting point of the black rubber drain tube. It was perfectly intact and not leaking. However the white plastic housing into which the rubber tube is connected to is leaking approx an inch further back - from a small square retaining clip - see pic below, it's the grubby small white plastic square to the left of the large plastic corner bracket

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what is the purpose of the square clip?

Seems to be a push fit retaining clip; holding the large white corner bracket to the black metal sunroof frame.

Ive managed to get my fingers over the top of the rubber seal and have a feel around on the inner framework and corner bracket.. There is a slight indent/recess just prior to the white drain tube .....and this was full of crap (dirt/grime). Think this was causing the water to pool over from the drainage channel (and recess) into the white clip area. I've managed to get as much out as possible .....used a mix of diluted bleach and soda crystals in very hot water and repeatedly flushed the rear drain recess area & hole out. Now the water seems to drain away without pooling over outside of its drainage channel. Just need a torrent of rain now to see if the drainage channel in the sunroof frame is clear enough to clear the water without spilling over outside its intended route.

"Just need a torrent of rain now to see if the drainage channel in the sunroof frame is clear enough to clear the water without spilling over outside its intended route."

So we're in for some sunny weather now

Is a hose pipe not a better option? it can also be turned off in the event of a failed fix  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Unfortunately no access to a hose pipe im afraid. Have a emptied a few water bottles over the closed sunroof and it remains dry inside but i guess the true litmus test is a heavenly downpour.

Beg steal or borrow a watering can, failing that invest in one! for a kick off it will hold 10 litres and with the rose attached will emulate rain rather well.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/whitefurze-watering-can-10ltr/29585

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p64511?table=no

http://www.diy.com/departments/yellow-plas...158_BQ.prd Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!