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Rosco Member Since: 20 Jan 2012 Location: Beyond the wall. Posts: 2575 |
Pete (Haylands) is your man for this one, I am sure he will be along at some point if not PM him |
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30th Jul 2016 9:09am |
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RRPhil Member Since: 22 Aug 2011 Location: Blackburn, Lancashire Posts: 963 |
Not sure how similar your symptoms are but these are the issues I had when my heated thermostat failed and shorted the wiring :
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30th Jul 2016 10:00am |
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Chasazim Member Since: 21 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 128 |
Read that post and checked fuses thinking " it can,t be this easy" well it was,t. Fuses are fine. Thanks for the sugestion it still sounds to me like a fuel problem.but then I come from a time when I used to reason that if you had fuel and spark then it should run not any more. Please continue the suggestions. |
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30th Jul 2016 10:19am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8190 |
Don't big me up Ross, I haven't a clue, I can tell you the thermostat fault will have nothing at all to do with engine problems, mine has been disconnected for years and runs fine.... it's not a sensor so will have no effect on fuel delivery etc.... If you want guesses then I'd check fuel pressure at the rail, there is a schrader valve to check it.... If low, could be pump... If not camshaft or crankshaft sensor, also corrosion in the ABS pump socket can cause all sorts of faults.... If no helpful codes then it's good old fashion work through the systems, it needs air, petrol and a spark... you have to find what it's not getting.... Pete __________________________________________________ 2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior 2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold 2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold 2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold -Click for Project Fatty off roader- |
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30th Jul 2016 12:18pm |
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Chasazim Member Since: 21 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 128 |
Thanks Heylands, I like your thinking, I was just going through some posts on another forum dealing with checking pump relay and connections and of course if the pump is working. I am leaning toward fuel problems as when it first lost power it would run but rough and now it will crank smoothly but sound like it only wants to fire on one cylinder. Will start the journey of discovery tomorrow. |
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30th Jul 2016 12:34pm |
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johnboyairey Member Since: 11 Jan 2013 Location: surrey Posts: 2032 |
lots of the early petrol models, suffer from a fuel pump pressure failure. there is a valve to check pressure on the fuel rail, (silver pipe on inlet manifold. ) there is also, a fuel filter underneath, near to spare wheel well. if you have another inline fuel pump, from another vehicle, you could try plumbing it in underneath, and see if it fires up. theres a WIKI on how to change the fuel pump. i did mine, i only changed the actual pump at around £70. unlike others that bought the whole drop in assembly at about £400 -accessed under the rear folding seat carpet. when mine went, it just stopped, and would not fire, however it did start a couple of times, but cut out as soon as the pedal was touched.
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30th Jul 2016 12:41pm |
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Chasazim Member Since: 21 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 128 |
Thanks for the encouragement, actually down Under we have what is called " Start you Bitch " I think it works the same.lol |
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30th Jul 2016 1:08pm |
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Chasazim Member Since: 21 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 128 |
All fixed checked fuel at the bleed valve on the motor, no fuel gotta be the fuel pump, lifted the carpet etc to access the pump, pulled the plug and checked for power, got power, reconnected pump plug and did the relay check, pump running, checked bleed valve and plenty fuel, turned the key and hey Presto she runs without a hitch, try a few more times and no problems. All back together and I can only guess that it must have been either the pump plug or the relay connections. I consider this to be a practice run for the next time
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31st Jul 2016 7:59am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8190 |
If you need a new pump soon, which is probably likely, then get one from an X5 and just change the pump itself into the FF carrier, costs about a tenth of the price of a genuine FF one... Pete
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31st Jul 2016 10:39am |
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Chasazim Member Since: 21 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 128 |
You are right Heylands it's probably due so I can order one in, at least it need not be a panic job and I can look for the best price for a replacement pump. It was most undignified for the ff to ride on the back of a breakdown truck.lol Cheers. |
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31st Jul 2016 12:00pm |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8190 |
It's a Land Rover, it's use to getting a lift home..... Pete
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31st Jul 2016 2:45pm |
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Chasazim Member Since: 21 Jan 2015 Location: Perth Posts: 128 |
the plot thickens, went to fill up with fuel this morning, the guage read just over a quarter of a tank, took 99.01 litres so the simple fact was I ran out of petrol and must have formed a air lock, then with me playing around and the 3 litres or so that I added the air lock must have purged.I am bloody lucky I got to the petrol station so now for the first time in ages my fuel tank shows full.next project is to check fuel sensors. Any ideas?? |
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1st Aug 2016 2:39am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8190 |
Pretty well known issue I think, they just fail and need replacing, or fill it up at 1/3 full.... Pete
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1st Aug 2016 11:47am |
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johnboyairey Member Since: 11 Jan 2013 Location: surrey Posts: 2032 |
you could do no worse, for now...than to carry a red petrol can, with a spare gallon. in the boot. if lawful. |
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9th Aug 2016 2:31pm |
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