Are there any other clunks or rattles that might lead you to where the problem is. Mine for example had a slight clunk if you let it roll and slammed the brakes on it. That's what made me go chasing what bushes may be possibly on the way out. Declan
2003 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8
97 Defender 90 300 TDi

If I jab the brakes whilst cruising there's a definite clunk felt through the car, if I feather the brakes I get the wobble, if I stand in the brakes hard the wobble is very little and then goes. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

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Thatis exactly how mine was, I'd go looking at those bushes if I were you. The clunk was most noticable in mine by simply letting in roll in forward gear and stick the breaks on it. It could be produced during normal driving too by hitting the breaks or indeed hitting the accelerator on start off.
On my old bushes, the rubber had broke away from the metal on the leg facing the arm as shown in the pic with the red circles

The bit's you ringed in red are not meant to be connected, they allow the bush to move in one direction but it bumps up against them in the other, they're called snubbers. The tears in the shear mounting are the failure, I've ringed them in green.


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Luckily I have found a local LR specialist who is LR trained and charges £40/hr +VAT.

He seems confident he can find the issue. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Ah cheers,
I was wondering how the two snubbers (like that word) seem to be disconnected so cleanly. The other two that you circled must have been severely weakened as the snubbers had a 5 mil gap between them and the centerpiece. The new ones have no gap.

 Declan
2003 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8
97 Defender 90 300 TDi

Rubbervhas a tendency to creep over time which can open or close gaps depending on the load direction. It can also soften and fail through too many cycles. These are all taken into account when 'lifeing' a bush at the design stage.

After driving mine for a few weeks having replaced the bushes, The steering wobble has been cured but I still did notice a certain roughness when braking gently especially when rolling to a halt with foot gently on the brakes. There even seemed to be a bit of grabbing and releasing going on which could be amplified by left foot on the brake and right foot on the throttle enough to keep the car moving.
So I decided that I cured what was wobbling in the steering with the bushes, but I did not cure what was causing it to wobble. I have since bit the bullet and replaced front discs with the terrafirma drilled & groved discs and fitted delphi pads.
Braking is now completely smooth as should be. I think it was the pads, although nearly new, that was the problem. The old discs look fine. Declan
2003 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8
97 Defender 90 300 TDi

Quite likely to be uneven pad material transfer to the disc. All modern pad materials work by transferring a small amount of pad material on to the disc surface, the braking is then done between two layers of friction material. I've seen pads transfer unevenly due to poor bedding in procedures or high speed stops followed by sitting on the brakes for a few seconds. Sometimes this can build up as the 'sticky bit' of the disc transfers more pad material each rotation during light braking, making it stickier and transferring more material etc. A friend used to run a CRX that would reliably do this every 2-300 miles - it got a little tiresome and he sold the car!

It's normally possible to clear the issue by re bedding the brakes (8-10 hard stops 70-10 mph, followed by 5 minutes gentle driving to cool everything down before stopping). The important thing is to avoid stopping and holding the brakes while the discs are hot, as far as possible!

Great info. Sounds exactly like what I had happening. HaHa hope its not recurring though and I have to sell. Guess I need to drive it like I stole it every now and then.  Declan
2003 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8
97 Defender 90 300 TDi

Steering wobble under braking most likely a worn track rod end or possibly you have put a slight warp in the new discs Adam.Did they copper grease the callipers after fitting the new pads,any chance the pads aren't retracting from the discs properly or a sticky calliper causing your problem.

Very hard to believe as well no suspension wear at all after 82k.I had problems with the dust shields.One was warped after doing the rear hub bushes which caused it to rub against the back of the brake disc.Brake got very hot but you could hear it with the window down rubbing.Did they damage one of your dust shields,I know you said brakes only new but this could lead to hot discs as well and possibly a warped disc..?

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