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johnboyairey



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

If it's one of the stepped washers from the rocker cover, then, if you grasp the inner up facing tube, you will pull it out. So trying to get round the outer ring maybe not necessary. Try using pliers.

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Cloned earl



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England 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

Looks like a washer for the cam cover, when i changed the cam gaskets one of the washers fell off and fell nicely and neatly down onto the spark plug.. looks exactly like your photo... to get the washer out i drilled 3 holes in it and with some strong steel cable managed to 'spin up and out' after about 2 hours of trying other methods (vacuum cleaner etc). Mine was mad worse by the fact that the port was all filled up with oil due to the gasket leak!!, changing the gasket on the other side only took 35 minutes. Previous LR's

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ebajema



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Mmmmmm dat gaat een heel gepeuter worden ben ik bang.

First try magnets, needle nose pliers, tweezers (pincet) etc. If that doesn't work the next step could be more elaborate tools. Have you tried to see if the ring is magnetic.

Maybe you can make some hooks from old dentist hooks. They are quite strong, grind of the end and see if you can get them underneath at 3 positions approx. 120 deg apart. And than slowly pull up.

If you know someone with a welding machine you could try to weld three thin welding rods onto the ring and try to pull it out. The trick is to "spot weld" the welding electodes to the ring as in a bad start of welding. That is quite drastic and risky but could work. Make sure the battery is disconnected !!

Last option, just leave the bloody thing in and live with it until you start getting misfires.............. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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gbmud



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Zermatt Silver

If it is just a washer over the plug - I have not been following the whole thread very closely - then two wooden coffee stirrers from Costa (other coffee sellers are available), a dab of Araldite on each stirrer, down the hole to contact the washer and nothing else, and retire for 24 hours before removing the stirrers and washer.

Chris

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ebajema



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I thought of the glue route as well but am worried that the glue goes into places where it should not go. Then again, the welding rod route is similarly tricky ;( MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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ebajema



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Is the washer moving when you push it ???? If there is some movement, you may try either compressed air from a BIG compressor (pressure and flow to be high) or a high pressure washer (Karcher) and see if they work the damn thing loose and blow it out.............. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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jonnyboy54321



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It's probably been pushed hard down into place when putting the plug lead back on.

Looking at the setup, what about some angled pliers, with the handles like these?
http://www.irwin.com/tools/pliers-adjustab...re-crimper

Looking at your picture you have some working room to the right of the plug itself where you could get down into the recess? Handles would have to be in vertical plane to work though (as per the Irwin picture) 2007 Vogue TDV8 with 255/55/20's fitted

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take no notice of these silly suggestions, use one of these,


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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Good blast of compressed air try and get underneath it and blow it out

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pietertje



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Netherlands 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Tx for all your thoughts guys! Don't think the grabbing tools have enough room on the sides to get a good grip, actually I'm sure.... There MAYBE is about 1mm of space around... So it is really stuck in there... no movement, at all... Tried a steel pointy pick tool without any luck...
I'm also a bit afraid of going down the glue road....

Drilling some small holes and using a steel cable to try and lift it also sounds like a good idea..
Maybe tomorrow -if the weather lets me- I will try the compressed air... Keep you guys updated!

If all methodes fail I will try your suggestion Stan Thumbs Up 2002 L322 V8

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Dtech



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England 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

Could you drill a small hole in each side and screw a small self tapping screw in each hole, then you may be able to pull it out with some pliers

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

I like that idea

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Joe90



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Having broken the tops (ceramic bits) off spark plugs in the past on other cars, this still leaves the hexagon with which to undo the plug? As you are replacing the plugs anyway? Unless things are very different on a petrol FFRR....I know it is a bit destructive but as a last resort..... .
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pietertje



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Netherlands 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

True that Joe... No need to be to scary...
Also like the idea of the small hole and the self tapper to pour that ring out...
I need another day of good weather- and some spare time!

Keep you guys informed...
Thanks for everyones thoughts and tips Thumbs Up 2002 L322 V8

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pietertje



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Netherlands 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Sorry... Double post 2002 L322 V8

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