caymanblack wrote:

Is it me? but all this damage from hitting a kerb at less than 20mph I think is just ridiculous and I for one do not think this is right. I would be very worried going off road in the OPs RR cant be right.

Land Rover spent a stupid amount of money when airbags became the norm to ensure that they didn't go off when off road, unless you have actually had an accident... the controllers use inputs from all sorts of sensors to ensure they don't go off while you are off road.... mine has been well tested and not set one off yet....

Of course as with all things, that was a "yet" at the end of that sentence...!!!! Pete
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When you put winter tyres on your car, do you store the summer tyres yourself? And if the winter tyres are smaller size tyres, do you have to make any other adjustments? Presumably you pick different alloys as well? 2024 Range Rover P550e AB

I run the same size winter & summer tyres - store them myself and have them on another set of rims.

On my L322 I had a different style of wheel for the winter tyres. For the L405 I ended up buying another set of identical rims.

Some people argue that you should run smaller wheels - with correspondingly taller tyres - others that the tyres should be narrower. Whilst there are arguments for both these things, I'd rather still run the exact same size.

Just on the question of storage - if you just have no garage or other storage facility, having tyres indoors involves putting up with an unpleasant smell and I have heard suggestions that there are carcinogenic compounds involved. In those circumstances I would look for a dealer or someone else to store the spare tyres for me. I think BMW have a scheme where if the dealer sells you winter tyres they also store the ones you are not using. I am not aware of LR dealers offering that service.

I have a spare set of wheels, 19" for winter, the car came with 20" wheels which I use in summer, on my old car I just swapped the tyres over as it had 19" wheels which would take the Goodyear MT/Rs or Duratracs I use in winter. No adjustment required, the wheels are LR wheels and the tyres LR homologated. Only Range Rovers since 1988

I'm fortunate to have the space - but I wouldn't want them stored inside the house.

I think ATS - and maybe others - offer a storage facility - presumably you're expected to buy the tyres from them in the first place.....

Cheers H. I'd have to buy a full set of 20 or 21" (they don't do 22") wheels to put them on and I basically have no where to store 5 wheels & tyres when not in use, unless of course I change my garden shed for a larger more secure one. Have to say, at present , my plan is to run this one for another year or so then change it and make sure next one has 20/21" wheels. Never had any issue with the standard tyres on my old L322 in any weather conditions (they were Michelin Latitudes and then IOTAs) and the current car in the wet is fine , just doesn't seem to like ice under snow  Steve

Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans

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I'd have to buy a full set of 20 or 21" (they don't do 22")

Continental do Winter 22's- that's what I have

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic34831.html

Thanks Alistair, I had forgotten about that thread. Thinking of getting my 2 damaged wheels back as spares (if they can be repaired) and then I could get winters for these (if I sort a 2nd shed out for the garden, or 1 bigger more secure one) as long as I could source another pair of 22"s to have a full (excl spare wheel) 2nd set. Steve

Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans

I thought about your airbags some more - and I guess it makes sense that they went off

If you were parked at a junction & a truck ploughed into the side or you - you'd expect the side airbags to go off - which is a very different movement than driving off road - or anything including forward motion.

It seems reasonable that the side airbags could be triggered sole by a lateral shock irrespective of forward speed.

Yes, it's just that it seemed so mild, I wasn't even rocked that hard laterally (one of the lads was holding a box full of Chinese takeaway - didn't even remotely get close to dropping it). Ah well , at least I know what an airbag sounds like now  Steve

Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans

Alistair wrote:

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I'd have to buy a full set of 20 or 21" (they don't do 22")

Continental do Winter 22's- that's what I have

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic34831.html

+1 - problem is: we had NO snow at all.....  All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2021 AM new Vantage

I had to take mine to the Alps to find some

We haven't even had that many freeing mornings this year.

We actually had a flurry of snow for about 5mins on Wed afternoon, luckily, it was sunny so it disappeared as it landed . There was a possibility that I would have been getting my car back that afternoon aswell so I was then thinking, is this fate mocking me in that I would have to bring it home in the snow again - although if this had been the case, I would have taken the corner at 5mph this time around instead to be safe!! Steve

Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans

Steve, I’m glad no-one was hurt sir...
But, in some ways I’m supprised the insurance company are repairing the car!!! A lot of insurance companies won’t entertain changing airbags/pre-tensioners/etc etc as they cannot be 100% sure other components have NOT been unduly stressed!

In the last 10yrs or so 3 customers have done similar with their cars (ok one involved another car on a roundabout) but all VERY low speed and all icy weather, kerb’s and airbag deployment & NO apparent body damage BUT all were written off because the insurance wouldn’t take the risk IMHO... (i bought one of them! )

Simple case in point Steve. You mentioned above, you wonder why the webbing part of the seatbelt was changed? How can you be sure what damage has been caused to that part when the pre-tensioner deployed? Stretching the webbing or breaking fibre’s...

In this modern society where blame & claim go hand in hand!

Hi Craig. I assume it's just economics, it would be easier for the insurance company to replace every conceivable part relating to the cars safety systems than pay me out as a write off . Guessing the cars you refer to were L322s and if I still had my old one at this stage, it would have been a write off as the replacement parts would easily be over 80% (if not all) of its value. Steve

Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans