stoutgoose wrote:

Kingsley Classics.

£90k for their Signature model!

Bellini wrote:

Look at the '68-'70 Dodge Charger to illustrate my point. Made in vast numbers, but find a decent one and you'll pay a lot for it these days.

Not the best example there Buddy

I believe that that a couple of good old boys, called Bo and Luke Duke, sort of broke rather a lot of Dodge Chargers, especially the 440 RT model, sort of made them like Rocking Horse Poo You'd stand a better chance of finding a Bugatti Royale or a rust free Lancia Beta  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

It's an excellent example. Dodge made over 96,000 '68 Chargers alone and the series only wrecked just over 300 of them between production years '68-'70.

The enthusiast movement has saved many more because of the series alone.

The film crew bought any model they could find and not that many were true R/T's or, indeed, 440's. Any engine was used as was any trim level. It really didn't matter what they were.

The car is desirable for many other factors besides the DofH. Nascar, Bullit and one of THE nicest B-body shapes ever made, amongst others. Values would be strong regardless.

My point stands. Si. <This is my name.

I eat rat poison.

A man ain't truly been insulted until he stands buck naked in front of a woman and she didn't even notice. Or care.

Please don't get me wrong, the Charger is a stunning bit of design and most desirable (especially the RT)......... but not at £ 70k +

I, like you, think that the classic is already a classic in every sense of the term, and now the prices are beginning to climb to reflect this.... just wish I'd kept my first one now  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

On my third RRC at the moment and I have to say I believe they are becoming a classic in the eyes of many. My latest is a 94 hard dash so not particularly an old 'un but A plan offered me a clciic insurance policy cover. There is no doubt early 2 doors are indeed true classic cars as they were the vanguard of what CSK desired and designed but by associational later hard dash models are likely to be cast in the same mould.

It helps towards the classic status they went out of production over 20 yrs ago , it helps most of them have suffered terminal tin worm making good quality examples worth a fortune, it helps there are many small firms making a living reviving them and it helps that the shape did not change in any great form for decades.

For me they becoming a classic because of their history.

Despite having sold my previous two RRC's for a profit I'm not selling the latest one. Its a case of what you believe as there is no real answer.  405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
93 RR Classic efi

Remember it's easier to get forgiveness than permission!

Gone in order:
4.4 TDV8 SE - gone to a good home
93 Classic hard dash Plymouth Blue
03 L322 Oslo Blue
2000 Disco TD5 ES Epsom Green
98 P38 Rioja Red
89 Classic Cairngorm Brown

there always be a classic in my eyes , I could thinking of the amount I bobtailed and made into pick ups,
I even remember I swapped an old 1999 Mondeo v6 ghia x estate for a mint 1994 lse.
had to drive to wales for it.

don't think id get an offer like that again  2007 tdv8 se ,stornaway grey

Very difficult to say with the amount of rr's that where built, imo the only classic that's going to get classic 'status' is the early 70's 2 door, or the csk ( which even now commands a premium....even the last of the 'classic' badged, soft dash RR's, good uns that is are pricey.
I slipped up years ago at a garage where I got my lpg from, this guy had a mint classic with a 4.2 in it, no it was not a lse, standard 100 inch wheel base, not sure if it had Brookland kit on it. Back then my D1 was also mint so didn't want to change.........wish I did now though! If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

This talk, got me motivated enough today to get me into the garage and fire mine up, went first go and has been stood a year, nice to see her up on her air suspension!!

Nice to here the V8 through her sports exhaust  Regards
Royston

2008 4.2 Supercharged Autobiography
1994 Classic Vogue SE
1999 Rover BRM
1987 Rover Vitesse Twin Plenum

Let's see...
The RRC is a beautiful vehicle whose looks have aged well. Check.
A well sorted one is still a nice car to drive. Check.
Good copies are becoming rarer. Check.

So, yes, it looks like it's heading that way. It's already more expensive than an equivalent P38.

Many have commented on the number made. Yes, so it will take a long time before they are really rare. But look at the VW Beetle (the old air-cooled one): built in the mega-millions but now very collectable.

Probably best to buy one because you like it. Then any appreciation in price is just a bonus.

I think as Craig suggested, the early 2 doors and the CSK type real limited editions which really were different from the mainstream models will be the ones to command real classic value down the line and be known as 'classics'. (They already command their premiums, and have done so for years).

I've never really thought of the modifier companies of the classic RR as being ones to be sought after to be honest. Its a bit like saying the KAHN's will be the classics over some of the rare limited editions straight from the factory.

I've had a few beaten up RRC's over the years, and don't really miss them that much, even when I see one trundle down the road. However, when you see a really well looked after RRC bumbling along that has decent panels, no rust, well polished I do get a wee pang of jealousy. V8 or else ...

I'm looking back and thinking how wonderful it would be to have a car with no ECU's Fit it with electronic ignition and your more that half way to a reliable Range Rover  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Seriously, I see a few RRCs fitted for bushwacking pretty regularly and they wouldn't turn any heads (well, not in a good way). Then a few months ago, saw one RRC "brand new" on an early 90s tv show. With gleaming paintwork and pristine interior, they're rather different.