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Sql

Member Since: 27 Jun 2015
Location: Poland
Posts: 248

2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

L322 to G-Wagen anyone? Or the other way around? Experience?

I have had my L322 only for like 5 months now and yesterday when I was checking out my local ads I found a very nice G-Wagen. A black 2001 but facelifted G400 with a bonus of genuine G55 AMG wheels and wide arches. Almost a dream spec.

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And it got me thinking. I always admired and wanted a G-Class sometime down the road. Another one on my bucket list after an RS4, 911 Turbo and a Fullfat Range.

Wonder if any of you guys made similar move. Now after some time with my FFRR I start to question if it would be a wise move. I already got used to a bit newer technology that can be found in a FFRR (touch screen, bluetooth, mp3, reverse camera etc etc) and 2001 G-Wagen is pretty basic in those terms. I also never had an opportunity to drive one, wonder how it drives compared to an FF. The engines and performance should be similar, 3.6 TDV8 with 272 hp in 2700 kg range vs 4.0 Turbodiesel making 250 hp in a 2200 kg Merc.

I guess best option would be to meet the guy and see for myself but any input from you guys will be appreciated. 07 3.6 TDV8 Vogue
Buckingham Blue / Sand / Piano

2nd Dec 2015 11:49am

fisha

Member Since: 25 Sep 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1370

2015 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Aruba

Rightly or wrongly, i've never really considered the G-wagon as something to compare to the RR. I've always put it in the bracket of comparing against a defender 90/110. In that bracket its a far better option. In comparison to an RR, I think you would be downgrading a lot in terms of interior, modernism etc etc, and not getting much alternative in return. Particularly because its a conversion . . so it isn't an AMG stupid power V8 . . . which means for all those looks, its not really got the full on mental experience that I personally think the wide stance + wheels needs.

If I saw that in the street, I would expect the V8 grumble.
If I got in it and drove it, I would expect the V8 grumble.

If it didn't have it, then every drive would have that "wonder what the V8 is like" feel to it.

Keep the RR! or go big! V8 or else ...

2nd Dec 2015 1:30pm

n1cktdv8

Member Since: 19 Aug 2013
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 1754

2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I'd be looking at getting the G. I think it's a great car. Looks good as a refurb/upgrade too. Very nice indeed. It's not really compared to a FFRR often but I think it'll be solid and reliable, some luxury and off road confidence plus nice street looks. Is this where I put the car details and a bit about myself ?........

2nd Dec 2015 3:25pm

JasM

Member Since: 08 May 2015
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 220

2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Santorini Black

That looks really nice. Go for it! 2014 SDV8 Autobiography

Gone: 2012 RRS SDV6 HSE, 2007 RRS TDV6 HSE

2nd Dec 2015 5:14pm

JOKER

Member Since: 11 Sep 2008
Location: Sconnie Botland
Posts: 15876

Have seen G's parked up next to a FF and more people were interested in the G than the FF ....

Have just looked at them on AT .... Jumping F k i cannot believe the price that they are commanding for this one ...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...;logcode=p

2nd Dec 2015 5:16pm

Sql

Member Since: 27 Jun 2015
Location: Poland
Posts: 248

Yes, many are overpriced. This one posted in my original post would be around 15k GBP so really not bad, especially since it is a 2001 so already has more modern interior. 07 3.6 TDV8 Vogue
Buckingham Blue / Sand / Piano

2nd Dec 2015 7:06pm

55palfers

Member Since: 26 Aug 2014
Location: Solihull
Posts: 113

2008 Range Rover Autobiography 4.2 SC V8 Santorini Black

...if only that G was RHD!

2nd Dec 2015 7:43pm

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16294

2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

If i didn’t do the job i do now i would own/drive a “G” without a doubt...

I used to PDI them back in 1987 for my first job! Awesome bit of kit!!!

2nd Dec 2015 10:00pm

axle

Member Since: 28 Oct 2007
Location: Perth Perth the end of the Earth
Posts: 2964

2008 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Rimini Red

JOKER wrote:
Have seen G's parked up next to a FF and more people were interested in the G than the FF ....

Have just looked at them on AT .... Jumping F k i cannot believe the price that they are commanding for this one ...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...;logcode=p

2008 MY Supercharged
Rimini Red / Jet
four zone climate
remote park heater
and no ugly kid windows.
magnus satis quod turpis satis

3rd Dec 2015 2:17am

Bellini

Member Since: 11 Jan 2012
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2261

2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

55palfers wrote:
...if only that G was RHD!

Why would LHD be a problem? I own two LHD vehicles in the UK and drive them without any issues whatsoever. Si. <This is my name.

I eat rat poison.

A man ain't truly been insulted until he stands buck naked in front of a woman and she didn't even notice. Or care.

3rd Dec 2015 6:27am

ebajema

Member Since: 24 Mar 2011
Location: New Plymouth
Posts: 4782

2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Galway Green

I heard from various tests that they are not nearly as comfortable as the FFRR nor is the on road handling anywhere near the FFRR and offroad they are behind the FFRR.

I always regarded them as more utilitarian, like the Classic basically. Believe they are quite reliable, as you'd expect from Merc. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

3rd Dec 2015 11:36am

mzplcg

Member Since: 26 May 2010
Location: Warwickshire. England. The Commonwealth.
Posts: 4029

2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

If you wanted evidence of durability I found this to be a very good read.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_8703/index.html

3rd Dec 2015 11:45am

miggit

Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3657

Think I can answer the ride quality question

Is that not a Coil spring? thought that they went out of fashion with the ark

They are basic compared to a P38 let alone the ffrr, the only thing that they do really well is power...... had a run in with a Brabus G wagon in the Landcruiser......... I might as well have been in reverse

Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

3rd Dec 2015 4:10pm

RR2008HSE

Member Since: 06 Jan 2013
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2932

I wouldn't compare it to a FFRR on anything other than price. It's a lot more like one of those aftermarket Defenders with a lot of bespoke luxuries.

I'm not dissing it. They're great. But underneath they are old school Defender like. (And there are both pluses and minuses to that!) think of it as a Defender with reliability and everything working like it should. Off road excellent. On road, I'd expect it to drive more like a Defender than an FFRR.

But hey. If you have the cash....

I would expect, like the Defender, a very low rate of depreciation.

5th Dec 2015 1:11am

miggit

Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3657

I had never thought to compare it with a Defender before, but it makes sense, both were used by their respective countries military, and adopted by a few others........ although I think that L/R did a slightly better job promoting their product, maybe it was down to the price, it would appear that L/R weren't the greedy one's for a change

And if Land Rover had an in house tuning division, the Defender could be on a par with the G Wagon...... although a Special Tuning version of the Defender might leave a lot to be desired.... we are talking about the people that gave us the Rally Special Land Crab, and then they had to play with a Morris Marina Maybe it's just as well that they no longer exist and it has to be left to outsiders to do the job Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

5th Dec 2015 10:30am

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