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Engine failsafe prog

I've had this pop up along with restricted performance since I had been messing about for a couple of hours trying to get the dvd to play. I guess the battery was getting too low with all the doors open and screens on but now I have charged it it is still showing the fault. Is there a procedure I could try to clear it before I resort to a garage?? It's a 2003 Vogue 4.4V8 petrol.
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d2t

Post #356677 13th Nov 2015 2:44pm
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make sure the battery is 100% ok then after you've re-fitted it , turn the steering wheel fully left ,then fully right.. ... - .- -.




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Follow the battery disconnect and reconnect proceedure in the WIKI, link is at the top of this page under fullfatrr.com...

Should sort it... Thumbs Up Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
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stan wrote:
make sure the battery is 100% ok then after you've re-fitted it , turn the steering wheel fully left ,then fully right..

Obviously I do this with the engine running?

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Haylands wrote:
Follow the battery disconnect and reconnect proceedure in the WIKI, link is at the top of this page under fullfatrr.com...

Should sort it... Thumbs Up


I'm taking the opportunity to change the battery as it is not really taking charge, will leaving it disconnected for a while help clear stuff?

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correct do the steering wheel thing with the engine running.. ... - .- -.




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Lots of info in the WIKI

http://www.fullfatrr.com/wiki/Main_Page

Low voltage will certainly cause your symptoms....

Length of time the battery is off doesn't make any difference after the first 20mins or so... Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Not having much luck: Battery has made a huge difference to starting so I'm pleased I changed it but I still have the EFP message and reduced performance. I guess I need to find somewhere that can diagnose the problem or get myself an IID tool.
Can anyone recommend somewhere near Ashford Kent who may be able to help or should I just bite the bullet and order a tool? I assume the tool will tell me the exact fault or component that needs replacing?
Thanks
d2t

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Plugged in my new GAP reader and shows up 0x485 throttle adaption spring test failed. Fitted another throttle body but it threw the same fault. MAF and throttle pedal seem OK, could it be the plug or harness that runs to the throttle body? How would I check those?
Ta
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Plug to throttle body has very fine contacts, check they are clean and not bent, does it run OK?? does it rev up and down, does the throttle make the engine rev??

Did you clear all faults and try it?? Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Plug and pins seem OK. I have sprayed them with contact cleaner also. The car just idles very badly with the fault. There is no apparent response from the throttle. At this point if I unplug the MAF sensor the car stalls but if I restart it straight away it runs fine, I assume this is some kind of limp home mode but proves surely that the pedal and throttle body physically work.
If I clear the code while the car is running it runs even more roughly and does try and respond to the pedal but fails and then pops the failsafe prog and code up very quickly.
It's baffling me, the fault appeared out of nowhere: all I had done was move the car into the shed to gather the dvd player to work!
d2t

Post #358442 24th Nov 2015 6:49am
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Car all sorted now. Found a really good local auto-electrician who cam and had a look. He checked the connections and continuity of the engine loom, all OK. Disconnected the ECU for about 45 mins, reconnected and the car was/is ok now.
Conclusion: Running the battery right down and replacing it had 'spiked' the ECU. May never be an issue again but if it is then it's new ECU hardware time.
Thanks for all the suggestions above, very pleased to have it running again.
d2t

Post #359256 27th Nov 2015 9:18pm
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Glad it's sorted.... amased it took that long with the battery disconnect but these FF's like to prove their boss... Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

And thanks for bothering to post the outcome and fix... so many come, ask and disappear.... Bow down Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Post #359261 27th Nov 2015 9:36pm
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No problem at all. And I've barely even started on the squeaking rear end!!

Post #359287 27th Nov 2015 10:42pm
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That will be upper and/or lower rear hub bushes...

Genuine about £40 each, not too long a job for a garage with a decent puller, or you can DIY it... see the WIKI.... Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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