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I'm actively looking to buy a L322 TD6 HSE, I understand that all TD6's have auxilliary fuel burning heaters similar in operation to truck night heaters etc. What I would like to know is:-

1/ How do you set them to switch on first thing in the morning on a L322 with no sat nav screen?

2/ There appears to be a remote switch to switch it on and off - if the vehicle wasn't supplied with one from new, can a remote switch be retro installed to work with a L322 with no sat nav screen? Does a separate receiver have to be fitted to the FBH to allow the remote switch to work?

Thanks in anticipation - I can't seem to find much info relating to retro fitting these switch fob devices

I may have posted this in the wrong section so apollogies to the Mods.

Can't answer your question, but welcome...

Welcome 4x4

Not sure on HSE as never had 1, but not sure you it was fitted.

Remote, if an option, as not sure on non touch screen, but manual does say so, Is a dealer program.


Why HSE and not Vogue?

Welcome 4x4.

As nbunney said: why not a Vogue? I'm sure there's one for sale somewhere...

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic3530.html

Hope you find one!

nbunney wrote:

Welcome 4x4

Not sure on HSE as never had 1, but not sure you it was fitted.

Remote, if an option, as not sure on non touch screen, but manual does say so, Is a dealer program.


Why HSE and not Vogue?

Thanks for the welcome -

As I understand, all TD6 motors were fitted with auxilliary FBH's to assist the warm up cycle of the TD6 motor from a start in temperatures at 5degC or less.

Cars with the sat nav screen have further options for aux ventilation, which provides for starting the FBH at a set time for defrosting etc. I'm just wanting to know if this can be done on a car that doesn't have the on board computer screen. (along with the remote question I've already asked)

Since I've never owned a RR, it's difficult to phrase the questions as effectively, i don't know what it is exactly I'm asking about, just trying to glean info before I eventually buy one.

I had a 1981 SWB Station Wagon years ago and I vowed never again. I ended up putting a new galvanised chassis on it which took more than one lunch break to fit!

HSE not Vogue -

Hello

First of all, as above, why would you be looking for an HSE? The vogue has a higher spec, and is more likely to have the receiver unit for the FBH. As well as the ability to set the timer on the dash.

If you go for HSE then your only option will be to buy the receiver and remote kit. That'll be about £100 for the receiver and £75 for the fob. You cannot set the timer via the dash AFAIK. Also Aux Ventilation is NOT Aux Heating. AV literally just runs the fans, all Vogues have this, it's a nice feature to have in summer to vent the car before you get in on a hot day after work.

I also don't know how the receiver will work without the TV antenna as that's what the fob uses.

Apart from that, you are correct that ALL TD6's are fitted with a fbh that fires up at ign on to get the engine up to temperature faster as well as provide adequate (but certainly not instant) cabin heat.


I have this on my 4.4V8 as optional fit. Which begs the second question as to why you would go for a TD6? I get 22mpg on a run and am about to convert to LPG which will give the equiv of 40+ In real life the TD6 is not that economical as it's relatively underpowered so one needs to poke it to get it to shift. Often the money you save by not paying the diesel premium is more than the cost of a decent conversion circa £1300.

Just my thoughs on the matter tho  

hello 4x4 beetle,
i own oil burner ( TD6 ) and i love it, i get on average 20.1 mpg around town and 34.6 on a run, with that im very happy with. you will find that most V8 petrol owners turn to the TDV8 engine in the end anyway

i do agree with one thing they are saying is get a VOGUE. you wont regret it.
good luck in your search for that special motor and as always everyone to there own.
ian ONE LIFE LIVE IT

igore wrote:

You will find that most V8 petrol owners turn to the TDV8 engine in the end anyway

Really? I think if you are petrol type person then you stick with petrol. The only problem is petrols are getting rarer as LR sell more and more Diesels, now I think the only petrol variant is the SC?

In all honesty, I would consider the TDV8 because it is a good engine, however I would be concerned I wouldn't be able to maintain it, as Diesels use some sort of witchcraft to work. Petrol go bang turn wheels move forward.

To quote The Telegraph:
Call it a guilty pleasure if you will, but there are few finer ways of travelling than in a lounge on wheels that accelerates from 0-60 insanely quickly, drives at motorway speeds in near silence and will get you out of trouble that includes sticky fields and equally sticky overtaking situations.

Yes, the diesel version will kill the planet slightly more slowly, but if it's sheer opulence you're after, it's the Autobiography V8 for you.  

In all honesty, I would consider the TDV8 because it is a good engine, go on DAN we know your a closet oil burner fan really

Petrol go bang turn wheels move forward.[/quote]

oil go bigger bang , cough, splutter turn wheels move forwards  ONE LIFE LIVE IT

Hello,
I also have a TD6 (Vogue) and can confirm it has the aux fuel burning heater.
What it does not have is the Remote activation or the "Timed Climate" option via the touch screen.
I have been trying for approx a year to 'buy the kit' but so far no Land Rover dealership seems to know what i am on about. I decided to look towards dealers as it is available as an accessory [VUB501301 / VTU500010].
I think that i would only need the VTU500010 [being the electronic and software bits].
My conclusion is that they are as rare as hens teeth - certainly in Europe!.
Rgds
David

I have a TD6 2004 Vogue and it hasnt got the FBH, just the aux ventilation system controls on the nav screen

It does have the aux heater as you can smell it and hear it running on cold mornings

I would be interested in any "kit" to get the FBH working, so if anyone finds out let me know

DavidP wrote:

Hello,
I also have a TD6 (Vogue) and can confirm it has the aux fuel burning heater.
What it does not have is the Remote activation or the "Timed Climate" option via the touch screen.
I have been trying for approx a year to 'buy the kit' but so far no Land Rover dealership seems to know what i am on about. I decided to look towards dealers as it is available as an accessory [VUB501301 / VTU500010].
I think that i would only need the VTU500010 [being the electronic and software bits].
My conclusion is that they are as rare as hens teeth - certainly in Europe!.
Rgds
David

The kit you need is: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WEBASTO-THERMO-TOP-H...19bfff9c05

You can find the individual bits cheaper than that though. Also - you should see if the loom is already there. Behind the fuse panel in the boot (right hand side) is where it all plugs in. It will be a real pain if it is not there.

There are cheaper home made options I read about here: http://www.disco3.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Fuel_Burning_Heater

FBH by d86cfv, on Flickr 

Dan,
Thank you for the link. A while ago [last year -17 brrrrrrr] i was pointed in this direction [webasto] but i still had to find a friendly dealer who would/could upload the software to give the 'timed climate' option on the touch screen - they seem not to want to do a-la-carte work here!.
My thoughts were to give all the work to the dealer. Usual thing car in they do the business and i collect car with all working and bill paid.
It is still my intention to purse this, maybe through the UK now [i grew lazy over the summer]!.
Thank again
David

Cheers for the link Dan

4x4 Beetle - What is your budget?

Dan - that looks like exactly what I'm going on about, Telestart T90 Remote Control for the on-board FBH.
That would do the trick. I'm sure the RR fully fledged version turns on the blower fan and operates a water diverter valve from engine block to heater matrix and, for good measure, ultimately flattens the vehicle's battery... Well, if its in poor shape I guess.

I just want something that will warm up the engine 30 minutes prior to setting off in the middle of winter as the car will stand all winter outside my house at 1000 feet above sea level. Since all TD6 motors in whatever level of trim have the fuel burning heater fitted, it would go some way to enhance this FBH feature.

nbunney - I'm not wanting to spend a fortune, capping at £13K, streching a wee tad further at a push, my emphasis is on a clean, looked after winter car. That's why I'm not fussed about opting for a Vogue despite much steering already on this thread. Sat navs, TV's, DVD players and the like are not really a requirement, for me anyway.

To be honest the SE would be fine. However, I'm used to driving cars with Xenon gas discharge headlights. I think they're a great improvement compared with incandescent lamps such as Quartz Halogen. The HSE has Xenon lights as a standard fit.

Then we have the TD6 v's V8 petrol - which ever uses the least amount of fuel during ordinary everyday driving will be my choice. The general concensus is the TD6 yields more MPG. I don't require huge amounts of power, just a reliable, comfortable mount for the winter months. I don't have anything to tow. Neither am I likely to be off-roading or driving over boulders the size of a skip, just a 50 mile daily commute through the Peak District with the possibility of the odd foot of snow.

Did I ought to look at a Shogun?