I assume that as we all own FFRR in some shape or form we earn good money but .....

Why does it seem that the harder you work , the less you get back in life?

I see the new Government are now going to remove Child Benefit for earners on higher tax bracket!

It seems that the less you do whether intentionally or not , the more you get handouts.

Thats it rant over.................
 CURRENT : FFRR 2012 4.4 TDV8
GONE : Discovery 4
GONE : BMW M5
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Vogue Owner wrote:

I assume that as we all own FFRR in some shape or form we earn good money but .....

I'm in the latter group, sold the house to buy mine, and now live in the car!

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2023 FFRR L460
2021 AM new Vantage

The answer to the tax problem................................................ stop income tax so nobody pays it (now that would be really popular) and hike VAT to 25-30% and put it on everything (which would not be popular).


We all have to buy stuff so it's difficult to avoid paying tax, those that spend most pays most (what could be fairer!). Those earning below a certain amount have to keep all receipts and present them for a VAT refund at the end of the year.............

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The government can only really get money from Businesses and Workers.
So if they need more to spend we've had it.

Move away I am getting hacked off with this tax me tax me approach I work hard, I pay lots of tax. I work harder, I pay even more tax. If I decided to not work I can pretty much guarantee I would get NOTHING. Sucks. Land Rover Addict
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The grass isn't always greener abroad, I was offered a new German employment contract in February, money sounded great at €8200 a month, but then I was going to be paying 50% income tax, 19% social security deduction, loose my industry pension, loose even government minimum redundancy and I would not be able to claim any foreign earnings deduction for working out of the UK as all these things are deducted at source in Germany for seafarers. Staying on my UK contract costs my employer a huge amount, my state pension here might be less than it would have been from the German Govt but we have "free" health insurance, I can reclaim my overpaid income tax at the end of the year if I meet the conditions and for me at the moment I'm "only" paying 40% income tax. I turned down the new contract which is one reason why I am not returning to a German flag ship. The reason that I am more expensive to employ despite earning a lower UK contract salary is because in 2000 when my employers started employing UK seafarers they were NEVER going to operate German flag vessels so they agreed with our Union that should the ships ever become German flag the owners would pay our German tax and NI for us................... Well as they say, never say never because it happened. A change in German law required some of the fleet to be reflagged and suddenly the company wage bill doubled because all the ships had UK offices on special contract! We had to go because of an expensive mistake - I stayed because not enough German seafarers had the expertise to do my job, now I have trained 3 of them to take over from me, two of those promptly left to earn more with other shipowners! Another thing in Germany, seafarers have no employment protection, if the shipowners say they have no job for you then you just don't get employed, in the UK we cannot have the office door slammed in our face, we have an industry redundancy scheme. OK so the shipowners don't like it but it does mean they don't rush to get rid of all their employees the minute the industry takes a downturn. 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

I find quarterly dividends help allot with the amount of tax you pay....

in belgium when you have 5 children or more you dont have to pay tax anymore, were on kid number 3 and we are going to order nr 4 in december.  2002 td6 vogue, 06 supercharged facelift

I've got 2 you can have...